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Could someone please look up James Broyd b 1860 in Gosport, Essex and Mary ann Broyd b 1861 in Newington. Their 2 sons were William Edmund b 1899 in Abinger Hammer, Dorking, sy and Spencer b 1901 in Abinger Hammer.

In 1901 they were at Abinger Hammer with oldest son William . How many children were there within the marriage at the time of the 1911 census?

Another request is for a bit of detective work - I had a message from someone who is researching the Broyd family and she came across (dont know where or how ) a child who drowned and whose mother then committed suicide. She thought that her name was Maria Broyd b 1846 but she died in 1926 age 90.! I have heard nothing of this in my family or even a Maria Broyd but wonder if anyone could find out more for me - Its got me curious and I have no members oF my Broyd family now to ask. Maybe old newspaper archives would hold the answer. Sorry no more info but I would love to find out more

Thanks - grateful as usual

Rosie

1911
BROYD, James Head Married M 51 1860 Farm Bailiff Domestic Essex Godfield VIEW
BROYD, Mary Ann Wife Married
14 years F 48 1863 London Old Kent RD VIEW
BROYD, William Edmond Son M 12 1899 School Surrey Abinger Hammer VIEW
BROYD, Spencer Son M 9 1902 School Surrey Abinger Hammer VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3177 Reference:
RG14PN3177 RG78PN118 RD36 SD1 ED3 SN5

Registration District:
Dorking Sub District:
Capel Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Abinger

Address:
Abinger Hall Farm Near Dorking Surrey County:
Surrey

Cheers Maddie x

I don't quite understand your query.

If there was a daughter who drowned and the mother commited suicide...........who is Maria Broyd who lived to be 90?

The message I received was from a lady who is researching the Broyd family for her nieces uni project and she came across a lady whose child had drowned and then she committed suicide - she thought the lady in question was Maria Broyd b 1846 but as she said she found a Maria Broyd who died age 90 in 1926. I think she was asking if I knew of any such events in my family of Broyds or if there were maybe 2 Marias - I dont know but I thought I would put my feelers out. Thats all I know - I dont know where she got the info from - will check

Sorry to be so vague but you never know!

ps just sent message asking where and how she found the info on the drowning and suicide

Mistranscribed as Sister in Law but also says Dau in Law Sons wife.

1871 England Census
about Maria Broyd
Name: Maria Broyd
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Sister-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Wethersfield, Essex, England
Civil parish: Gosfield
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Halstead
Sub-registration district: Halstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 55
Piece: 1698
Folio: 145
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Broyd 62
William Broyd 32 Son of Robert**********
Maria Broyd 25 William's wife and dua in law to Robert****
Elizabeth Broyd 4
Charlotte Broyd 3
William Broyd 1
John Morton 8

The three children are Roberts grandchildren so must be dau's and son of William and Maria.

This looks to be the one she is referring to.


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Maria Broyd
Name: Maria Broyd
Birth Date: abt 1846
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1926
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Grimsby
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 658

Their son William on the next census.

1881 England Census
about William Broyd
Name: William Broyd
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Gosfield, Essex, England

Civil parish: Halstead
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: "Halstead Union Workhouse" *************


Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar (Pauper)

Registration district: Halstead
Sub-registration district: Halstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1801
Folio: 87
Page Number: 28

William the father is in Halstead working as a Brick Maker and says he is married but he is on the last of the pages of that census and working at a barn. Living on his own.

cheers - this Maria actually ties in with my Broyds of Robert and son William. My Robert was a widower in 1861. Still no wiser to this drowning etc but will carry on looking x

Just seen last post - thanks FGM

1881 England Census
about Charlotte Broyd
Name: Charlotte Broyd
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Gosfield, Essex, England

Civil parish: Halstead
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: "Halstead Union Workhouse"
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar (Pauper)

Registration district: Halstead
Sub-registration district: Halstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1801
Folio: 87
Page Number: 28

Charlotte, William, Charles and Christina are all in the workhouse together on the 1881 census. NO Elizabeth!

cheers - have to go for a while but will be back later to check any progress.

thanks x

Is this his marriage to Maria please?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Broyd
Name: William Broyd
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1864
Registration district: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 211



James Boyce Apr-May-Jun 1864 Chelmsford Essex

*****William Broyd Apr-May-Jun 1864 Chelmsford Essex

Mary Ann Emberson Apr-May-Jun 1864 Chelmsford Essex

*****Maria Keys Apr-May-Jun 1864 Chelmsford

Ah it could be - will check it out . The areas right. so its possible. Broyd isn't that common a name . thanks x

Found Maria in 1891 and she has her dau. Christina with her and her mother Sophia Keys but she is now married to Fracis Skeat/Keats. Census is once again mistranscribed for Christina but the actul form says Christina Broyd Dau.

1891 England Census
about Maria Keat
Name: Maria Keat
[Maria Keys]
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Francis S Keat
Mother's name: Sophia Keys
Gender: Female
Where born: Weatherfield, Essex, England

Civil parish: Leyton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1344
Folio: 53
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Francis S Keat 60
Maria Keat 44 1846
Christiana Keat 16 READS BROYD DAU
Sophia Keys 80 Mother in Law

1841 England Census
about Sophia Keys
Name: Sophia Keys
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Gender: Female
Where born: Essex, England

Civil parish: Wethersfield
Hundred: Hinckford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Braintree
Sub-registration district: Finchingfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 333
Book: 19
Folio: 56
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
George Keys 28
Sophia Keys 28
Emma Keys 7
Eliza Keys 5
Kezia Keys 2




1851 England Census
about Maria Keys
Name: Maria Keys
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Keys
Mother's name: Sophia Keys
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Wathersfield, Essex, England

Civil parish: Wethersfield
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Braintree
Sub-registration district: Finchingfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 1785
Folio: 103
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
George Keys 37
Sophia Keys 37
Emma Keys 17
Kezia Keys 11
Lucy Keys 9
Maria Keys 7
Matthias Keys 3
Martha Keys 10 MO

1861 England Census
about Sophia Keys
Name: Sophia Keys
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Sible Hedingham, Essex, England

Civil parish: Wethersfield
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Braintree
Sub-registration district: Finchingfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 5d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 125
Piece: 1113
Folio: 78
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Sophia Keys 47 WIDOW
Matthias Keys 15
Martha Keys 10
Sophia Keys 8

At dau Matha's house

1871 England Census
about Sophia Hafs
Name: Sophia Hafs
[Sophia Keys]
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Mother-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Sible Hedingham, Essex, England
Civil parish: Wethersfield
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Braintree
Sub-registration district: Finchingfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 1700
Folio: 107
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Broyd 22
Martha Broyd 20
Emma S Broyd 11 Months
Sophia Hafs 59
Sophia Hafs 19

Well I cna't find a death for Elizabeth or anything else for her. I can't find Maria on the 1901 census under the name of Keet/Keats or even Francis. I think the surname could have been Skeet on the 1891 census but can't find anything there either.

OH getting cross with me being onpooter so long so must get on with something else. Sorry.

Mel

Wow, you've been busy while I've been getting wet - thanks for all your info . I will have a good look at it all.

They are all in the right area for the Broyds of that time - I think it was only my gt uncle James Broyd who moved away to Abinger Hammer, Dorking where the family then remained until the deaths of Spencer and William in the 1980's. I'm sure there are grandchildren further afield - one is in America I know.

I know how easy it is to spend hours looking things up but you are your own FGM so just wave that magic wand!!

Thanks alot for that x