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Hi there,

I am looking to see my relation Mary Sarah Gatenby (born 1858 in Newby Wiske, Yorkshire) in the census. I have her before she married, and I believe I have found her marriage here:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
Boddy Hannah Thirsk 9d 596 Scan available - click to view
GATENBY Mary Sarah Thirsk 9d 596 Scan available - click to view
Jefferson John Thirsk 9d 596 Scan available - click to view
WILKINSON Mary Thirsk 9d 596 Scan available - click to view

However, there is only one groom listed and as he does not appear with Mary in 1891 I assume he married one of the other ladies. How can I find out who married Mary Sarah Gatenby?

Thank you,

Peter

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Mary Gatenby
England Marriages, 1538–1973

birth: 1862
marriage: 05 Sep 1885 —Kellington, York, England
parents: John Gatenby
spouse: George Stacey

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: George Stacey
groom's birth date: 1863
groom's age: 22
bride's name: Mary Gatenby
bride's birth date: 1862
bride's age: 23
marriage date: 05 Sep 1885
marriage place: Kellington, York, England
groom's father's name: John Stacey
bride's father's name: John Gatenby
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M01244-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1542253

Usually I look at the quarter concerned in that registration district and you usually find some reference numbers incomplete amongst the names on the list which helps sort things out. On this occasion however that does not seem to be the case but obviously as there is an odd number (33) of names who married, the list on Freebmd is incomplete.

That trick having failed I tried to find her on the 1891 census using just her forename + birth year + birthplace. Once again no joy.

In order to discover who she married it may then be necessary to obtain a copy of her 1888 marriage certificate which can be ordered from www.gro.go.uk using the index reference number that you have.

Do you know a date for her death?


This is the same set of marriages from a different source.

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: GATENBY, Mary Sarah
Registration District: Help Thirsk
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 9D
Page No: Help 596
MarriageFinder™: Mary Sarah Gatenby married one of the following people Help


BODDY, Charles <<<

JEFFERSON, John


WILKINSON, Mary

If that marriage is correct here is a death, I would assume the same person.


Name: BODDY, Mary Sarah
Registration District: Help Ripon
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 32
Volume No: 9A
Page No: 53

These are on the Yorkshire BMD ?????
Marriage
GATENBY Mary ROBSON James Langtoft, St Peter East Riding BRD227/1/180 (1887)

GATENBY Sarah M FLETCHER George S Leeds Registered Building Leeds RB/127/86 (1898)

Hi there, and thank you. Ann, that is not her parents but thank you. Her mother died young and she was raised by her grandparents.

Oh I feel quite clever; Jonesey, I tried the trick with the 1891 census and came to the same conclusion as you.

I suspect she married in Newby Wiske so I will look up the marriage there in Northallerton on my next visit.

Thank you also Slug and Lettuce; help much apprecaited.

And Staffslass thank you also; you seem to have found her death. Real shame.

Can you spot Charles Boddy in the 1891/1901? I would like to know if Mary had any children.

Thanks,

Peter

1891 census - household transcription

Person: BODDY, Charles
Address: 9, Marsh Street, Linthorpe, Middlesbrough

Cost:
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.

census search results 1891 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image
GIBBEN, John R Head Married M 50 1841 Engine Fitter
Northallerton
Yorkshire VIEW
GIBBEN, Jane Wife Married F 50 1841
Durham Sadberge VIEW
GIBBEN, Joseph Son Single M 21 1870 Engine Fitter
Guisbrough
Yorkshire VIEW
GIBBEN, Margaret J Daughter Single F 20 1871
Guisbrough
Yorkshire VIEW
GIBBEN, John R Son Single M 20 1871
Guisbrough
Yorkshire VIEW
GIBBEN, George E Son Single M 11 1880 Scholar
South Bank
Yorkshire VIEW
GIBBEN, Cicely S A Daughter Single F 10 1881 Scholar
Southbank
Yorkshire VIEW
GIBBEN, Thomas M Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar
Eston
Yorkshire VIEW
BODDY, Charles Boarder Widower M 32 1859 Joiner Cabinet Maker<<<<<<<<<<<
Ripon
Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4012 Folio:
8 Page:
9

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough Enumeration District:
50 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Pauls

Civil Parish:
Linthorpe Municipal Borough:
Middlesbrough Address:
9, Marsh Street, Linthorpe, Middlesbrough County:
Yorkshire (North Riding)

This one is a widow;

1891 England Census
about Charles Boddy Name: Charles Boddy
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ripon, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Linthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4012
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
John R Gibben 50
Jane Gibben 50
Joseph Gibben 21
Margaret J Gibben 20
John R Gibben 17
George E Gibben 11
Cicely S A Gibben 10
Thomas M Gibben 8
Charles Boddy 32 >> Joiner and cabinet maker


1881 England Census
about Charles Boddy Name: Charles Boddy
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's name: David (Snr) Boddy
Mother's name: Frances Boddy
Gender: Male
Where born: Azenby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Kirby Wiske
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Carpenter

Registration district: Thirsk
Sub-registration district: Thirsk
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4820
Folio: 158
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
David (Snr) Boddy 63
Frances Boddy 61
John Hy. Boddy 25
Charles Boddy 22


Dee x

This probably him in the 1881 census


1881 census - household transcription

Person: BODDY, Charles
Address: ?, Kirby Wiske

Cost:
Transcriptions are free for this set of records. You will be charged 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.

census search results 1881 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image
BODDY, David Snr Head Married M 63 1818 Carpenter & Farmer Of 17 Acres Employing 2 Men
Kirby Wiske
Yorkshire VIEW
BODDY, Frances Wife Married F 61 1820
Tollerton
Yorkshire VIEW
BODDY, John Hy Son Single M 25 1856 Carpenter
Deaf & Dumb Kirby Wiske
Yorkshire VIEW
BODDY, Charles Son Single M 22 1859 Carpenter<<<<<<<
Azenby
Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
4820 Folio:
158 Page:
4

Registration District:
Thirsk Sub District:
Thirsk Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Kirby Wiske Municipal Borough:
Address:
?, Kirby Wiske County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

Same conclusion then BatMansDaughter. :-)

Looks like he remarried by 1901 to a Matilda Walker in 1895.


Hello Staffslass, yep.. looks like we have a snap!! :-D

How sad. But From new research I know that Mary Sarah Gatenby had a great uncle living in Azenby in both 1881 and 1891, so there was a family connection before Charles Boddy was living in Newby Wiske.

Amazing.

If possible can you post the 1901 and 1911 for him?

Thanks,

Peter

Hi Peter,

I don't have subs for the 1911 census, but here's the 1901;

1901 England Census
about Charles Boddy Name: Charles Boddy
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Matilda Boddy
Gender: Male
Where born: Ripon, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Headingley Cum Burley
Ecclesiastical parish: Burley St Matthias
Town: Burley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Joiner

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: Kirkstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 4243
Folio: 104
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Boddy 42
Matilda Boddy 37


Dee x

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Charles BODDY
Date of departure: 7 October 1904
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: New York
Destination country: USA

Date of Birth:
Age: Adult
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Joiner
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 23 of 31

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Matilda BODDY


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Ship: ARABIC
Official Number:
Master's name: Thos P Thompson
Steamship Line:
Where bound: New York, USA
Square feet: 23796
Registered tonnage: 13801
Passengers on voyage: 1291




Ancestry has them transcribed as Doddy!


going to brother W Boddy, Hot Springs, Arkansas.

Good find Choccy;

1920 United States Federal Census
about Matilda Boddy Name: Matilda Boddy
[Matilda Boody]
Home in 1920: Kansas City Ward 12, Jackson, Missouri
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Birthplace: Yorkshire England
[Yorkshire]
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Boddy
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of immigration: 1904
[1909]
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Boddy 61
Matilda Boddy 56


1930 United States Federal Census
about Charles Boddy Name: Charles Boddy
Home in 1930: Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri
View Map
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Matilda Boddy
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Boddy 71
Matilda Boddy 65


Not found the 1910 yet.

Wow, thank you for discovering this for me. I am not directly related to Charles or Matilda, but it is interesting to see what became of them after his first wife died.

Can you possibly find their deaths?

Thanks again!

Peter