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hi all
dont know weather they do census in australia
could do with alittle help please
martha a and henry clark[e] when to australia some time between 1854 and 1857
there children
lydia ann born 1857 adelaide
caroline elizabeth 1859
henry george 1862 norwood
alice maud 1864
sarah ann 1867
what i am looking for is census records for them
hope i have wrote it alright
lorraine

lorraine

Census records are taken in Australia but once the data has been extracted the original records were/are destroyed so it is not possible to look up records in the manner that we can in the UK or in the USA.

hi jonesey
thank you
lorraine

Helo Lorraine,
What information are you looking for in regard to Henry, Martha and children. Hopefully someone with South Australian records may be able to help you.
Patricia.

Hi Loraine

Just to add a bit more info.

Births registered South Australia. ( Digger Index )

Surname: CLARK
Given Names: Lydia Ann
Date: 1857-06-29
Sex: F
Father: Henry CLARK
Mother: Martha Amelia SELBY
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 11
Page: 86
Cross Reference:

Surname: CLARKE
Given Names: Caroline Elizabeth
Date: 1859-10-14
Sex: F
Father: Henry CLARKE
Mother: Martha Amelia SELBY
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 15
Page: 207
Cross Reference:

Surname: CLARKE
Given Names: Henry George
Date: 1862-04-27
Sex: M
Father: Henry CLARKE
Mother: Martha Amelia SELBY
Birth Place/Residence: Norwood
District Code: Ade
Symbol:


Surname: CLARKE
Given Names: Alice Maud
Date: 1864-11-08
Sex: F
Father: Henry CLARKE
Mother: Martha Amelia SELBY
Birth Place/Residence: Norwood
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 33
Page: 38
Cross Reference:

Surname: CLARKE
Given Names: Sarah Ann
Date: 1867-05-18
Sex: F
Father: Henry CLARKE
Mother: Martha SELBY
Birth Place/Residence: Norwood
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 33
Page: 755
Cross Reference:

DEATHS: South Australia

Surname: CLARKE
Given Names: Lydia Ann
Date: 1861-10-28
Sex: F
Age: 4y
Status: C
Relative: Henry CLARKE (F)
Relative 2:
Residence: Norwood
Death Place: Norwood
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 9
Page: 297
Cross Reference:


Sarah Ann only survived 30hrs.
Surname: CLARKE
Given Names: Sarah Ann
Date: 1867-05-19
Sex: F
Age: 30hrs
Status: C
Relative: Henry CLARKE (F)
Relative 2:
Residence: Norwood
Death Place: Norwood
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 18
Page: 420
Cross Reference:


Possible death of Martha CLARKE ( Selby )

Surname: CLARKE
Given Names: Martha
Date: 1886-09-02
Sex: F
Age: 59y
Status: W
Relative: (not recorded)
Relative 2:
Residence: North Adelaide
Death Place: North Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 157
Page: 302
Cross Reference:


Marriages: South Australia
Caroline Elizabeth CLARKE but surname spelt as CLARK

Groom: TOLL
Given names: Frank
Bride: CLARK
Given names: Caroline Elizabeth
Date: 1878-10-10
Groom Age: 23
Status: S
Groom's Father: Thomas TOLL
Bride Age: 20
Status: S
Bride's Father: Henry CLARK
Place: Res of Mrs Clarke Adelaide
District: Ade
Symbol:
Book/Page: 117/87
Cross Reference:



Tony ( Victoria )

hi
wow thank you so much for all this info
sorry for the late reply i have only just seen it
thank yu once again
all the best
lorraine

From what Helen has found with the death of Caroline Elizabeth TOLL ( Clarke ) in the state of Victoria, it appears that both surviving CLARKE girls moved across the border into Victoria.

Alice Maud CLARKE married Sidney John COBBIN in 1900 Vic.


Marriage in Victoria

Surname: CLARKE
Given Names: Alice Maude
Event: M
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: COBBIN
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Sidney Jno
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: SA
Death Place:
Year: 1900
Reg. Number: 2290



Death Victoria

Surname: COBBIN
Given Names: Alice Maud
Father: Clarke Henry
Mother: Martha SELBY
Death Place: MELB E
Age: 56
Age Code:
Year: 1921
Reg Number: 11025
Event: D

Given her age at time of marriage,and the fact she would have been around 40 year of age when her 3rd child was born....can only find three childrens births registered.

Births 1900 to 1913 Vic


Surname: COBBIN
Given Names: Sydney Frank
Event: B
Sex: M
Spouse Surname/Father: Sydney Jno
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Maude CLARK
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: FLEMINGTON
Death Place:
Year: 1901
Reg. Number: 11131
.

Surname: COBBIN
Given Names: Alice Adelaide
Event: B
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: Sidney Jno
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Maude CLARKE
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: FLTON ( Would be Flemington )
Death Place:
Year: 1903
Reg. Number: 3166

Surname: COBBIN
Given Names: Norman Arth
Event: B
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: Sidney Jno
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Maude CLARKE
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: ESSENDON
Death Place:
Year: 1904
Reg. Number: 25498




Tony ( Victoria )

Sidney Frank COBBIN married in 1928 ( Victoria )

Family Name: COBBIN
Given Name: Sidney Frank
Spouse Family Name: ANDERSON
Spouse Given Name: Robertina Thompson
Registration Year: 1928
Registration Number: 1540
Re-registration Year:
Event Year:
Registration Type:
Event: M


Alice Adelaide COBBIN married Andrew REID in 1928 ( Victoria )

Family Name: COBBIN
Given Name: Alice Adelaide
Spouse Family Name: REID
Spouse Given Name: Andrew
Registration Year: 1928
Registration Number: 2517
Re-registration Year:
Event Year:
Registration Type:
Event: M


Norman Arthur COBBIN married in 1935 ( Victoria )


Family Name: COBBIN
Given Name: Norman Arth
Spouse Family Name: BROWN
Spouse Given Name: Annie Edith
Registration Year: 1935
Registration Number: 2373
Re-registration Year:
Event Year:
Registration Type:
Event: M



Tony ( Victoria )

South Australian Register, Saturday 4 September 1886
CLARKE.— On the 2nd September, at Murray-street, North Adelaide, Martha, widow of the late Henry Clarke, of Nottingham, aged 59 years.

The South Australian Advertiser, Monday 18 June 1877
CLARKE.-On the 15th June, at Freeman-street, Adelaide, Henry Clarke, of heart disease, after a long and painful illness, aged 49. His end was peace.

The Argus, Wednesday 21 May 1947
TOLL-On May 20 (suddenly) at the home of her daughter (Mrs N. P. Webster), Normanhurst, Army road, Pakenham East, Caroline Elizabeth (Nan) wife of the late Frank Toll and deary loved mother of Mabel (Mrs N. P. Webster) and loving grandmother of Frank, Noel, Caroline (Mrs C. Purton), Ray and Bruce and great grandmother of Patricia, aged 87 years.

Buried at Pakenham Cemetery.

From NLA Trove newspaper site :-)

hi
wow wow wow
how can i thank you for all the info thank you so much

now being alittle cheeky
henry clarke and martha amelia had another daughter amelia who was born 1848 in nottingham england
she married
john hay born about 1848 unknown
children of john and amelia
lillian maud 1873
lydia florence elizabeth 1877
martha marian caroline 1879
henry washington 1879
mabel caroline 1882
all i think born adelaide
any info on these would be wonderful
all the best lorraine

hi
i had been on my tree this morning and wrote down info for alice maud clarke and sidney cobbin
so i could post it on here
and when i looked [at this post ] you had already done it
many thanks
lorraine

hi helen
you sent me a email address of www.saghs.org
have had alook but it seems you have to be a member [of which i am not]
is there something on there that you could tell me
all te best
lorraine

Hi Lorraine.

Late evening in Australia 10:30 pm
Most Aussie's would be getting ready for closing off fo the night.


Births registered S.A

Surname: HAY
Given Names: Lillian Maud
Date: 1873-11-17
Sex: F
Father: John HAY
Mother: Amelia Emily CLARKE
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 128
Page: 308
Cross Reference:

Surname: HAY
Given Names: Martha Marian Caroline
Date: 1876-01-15
Sex: F
Father: John HAY
Mother: Amelia Emily CLARKE
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 161
Page: 188
Cross Reference:


Surname: HAY
Given Names: Lydia Florence Elizabeth
Date: 1877-10-27
Sex: F
Father: John HAY
Mother: Amelia Emma CLARKE
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 191
Page: 418
Cross Reference:

Surname: HAY
Given Names: Henry Washington
Date: 1879-10-27
Sex: M
Father: John HAY
Mother: Amelia CLARKE
Birth Place/Residence: North Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 230
Page: 92
Cross Reference:

Surname: HAY
Given Names: Mabel Caroline
Date: 1882-03-23
Sex: F
Father: John HAY
Mother: Amelia Emily CLARK
Birth Place/Residence: Norwood
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 280
Page: 22
Cross Reference:

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Possible marriages S.A

Groom: HAY
Given names: Henry Washington
Bride: BROWN
Given names: Lillian Kate
Date: 1909-02-10
Groom Age: 29
Status: S
Groom's Father: John HAY
Bride Age: 26
Status: S
Bride's Father: Henry John BROWN
Place: Christ Church North Adelaide
District: Ade
Symbol: S
Book/Page: 238/272
Cross Reference:


Groom: BRISTOW
Given names: Edwin William
Bride: HAY
Given names: Lydia Florence Elizabeth
Date: 1908-04-21
Groom Age: 28
Status: S
Groom's Father: William Charles BRISTOW
Bride Age: 30
Status: S
Bride's Father: John HAY
Place: Holy Trinity Church Adelaide
District: Ade
Symbol: S
Book/Page: 235/186
Cross Reference:

Lydia Florence Elizabeth BRISTOW ( Hay ) died 30th Nov 1913 and it appears her husband re-maried to Lydia sister.... Mabel Caroline HAY ( below ) in 1915

You will notice his "Status" is W = Widowed

Groom: BRISTOW
Given names: Edwin William
Bride: HAY
Given names: Mabel Caroline
Date: 1915-11-02
Groom Age: 35
Status: W
Groom's Father: William Charles BRISTOW
Bride Age: 33
Status: S
Bride's Father: John HAY
Place: Res of Rev W J Mortimer Prospect
District: Ade
Symbol:
Book/Page: 265/421
Cross Reference:

**************************************************

Possible death for Amelia Emma HAY ( CLARKE )

Surname: HAY
Given Names: Amelia
Date: 1891-07-13
Sex: F
Age: 45y
Status: M
Relative: John HAY (H)
Relative 2:
Residence: North Adelaide
Death Place: North Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 195
Page: 35
Cross Reference:

Just for reference, Australian colonial newspapers are also good way to search for family here, and a great source for imformation. ( Marriages, Deaths, Funerals, Cemeteries, ect,ect..."Click" on "South Australia" and add given and surnames into search box ( top right hand side of page )

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home


Tony ( Victoria ) :-)

Lydia Florence Elizabeth BRISTOW ( HAY ) had three children before she died in 1913

Surname: BRISTOW
Given Names: John Edwin William
Date: 1910-03-31
Sex: M
Father: Edwin William BRISTOW
Mother: Lydia Florence Elizabeth HAY
Birth Place/Residence: Prospect
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 840
Page: 316
Cross Reference:

Surname: BRISTOW
Given Names: Kathleen Mabel
Date: 1912-03-11
Sex: F
Father: Edwin William BRISTOW
Mother: Lydia Florence Elizabeth HAY
Birth Place/Residence: Prospect
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 882
Page: 441
Cross Reference:

Surname: BRISTOW
Given Names: Lilian Jean
Date: 1913-05-07
Sex: F
Father: Edwin William BRISTOW
Mother: Lydia Florence Elizabeth HAY
Birth Place/Residence: Prospect
District Code: Ade
Symbol: C
Book: 909
Page: 345
Cross Reference:

Its also quite possible and more than likely that Mabel Caroline took on her deceased sisters children ( above ).......but there was also one more child birth registered to Mabel Caroline and Edwin William BRISTOW

Surname: BRISTOW
Given Names: Florence Beatrice
Date: 1925-02-19
Sex: F
Father: Edwin William BRISTOW
Mother: Mabel Caroline HAY
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 149A
Page: 349
Cross Reference:


Tony

Three childrens births registered in South Australia to Henry Washington and Lilian Kate HAY ( BROWN )

Surname: HAY
Given Names: Keith Henry
Date: 1911-10-08
Sex: M
Father: Henry Washington HAY
Mother: Lillian Kate BROWN
Birth Place/Residence: North Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 874
Page: 44
Cross Reference:

Surname: HAY
Given Names: Max Caithness
Date: 1914-04-03
Sex: M
Father: Henry Washington HAY
Mother: Lillian Kate BROWN
Birth Place/Residence: Prospect
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 932
Page: 485
Cross Reference:

Surname: HAY
Given Names: Donald Jack
Date: 1919-01-25
Sex: M
Father: Henry Washington HAY
Mother: Lillian Kate BROWN
Birth Place/Residence: Prospect
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 31A
Page: 58
Cross Reference:


Tony

hi
well what can i say i did not think i would get much info [on these people ]
i live in england
but a very big wow
thank you so so much
all the best lorraine

oh my god
the info just keeps coming
a very big thank you tto some wonderful people
all the best lorraine