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Hi there,

My relation Mary J Hogg was born in 1858 in Newby Wiske, North Yorkshire. Her parents were Thomas Hogg and Ann Grey.

I can't find her in 1881 and I suspect she may have married but I don't know.

Can anyone help spot her in the census after 1871 (when she is with her parents)?

Thanks,

Peter

How do you know that she has not died?

Have you searched for a possible marriage for her on Freebmd Peter?

This is correct area for marriage:
Marriages Sep 1875
HOGG John James B Thirsk 9d 628
HOGG Mary Jane Thirsk 9d 628

Added:
Deaths Sep 1879
Hogg Mary Jane 21 Thirsk 9d 239
She is a Hogg either way.

Just the one I have come up with too Patchem....Only one in Thirsk reg district.

Have you tried searching for that couple at all Peter?

Hi and thanks,

I had found the marriage in 1875 but supsected it was not her as she married another Hogg ... I suspected this was a mistake on the website.

Thanks for this, maybe I need to order the marriage cert to confirm.

I am looking into the Hogg family and I wonder if John James B Hogg from the 1875 marriage is a relation. Could anyone spot him in the census now to see if I can find a connection? I looked for 1881 but nothing initally jumped out.

Thanks,

Peter

Have you tried Freebmd for a possible birth year/place for him to try and find him on census?

There is this one that fits with the birth of a John James B in 1849

1881

HOGG, John Head Married M 31 1850 Steel Forgeman
Eccleseall
Derbyshire
HOGG, Mary Wife Married F 29 1852
Topcliffe
Derbyshire
HOGG, Frederick Son Single M 2 1879
Sheffield
Yorkshire
HOGG, Fanny Daughter Single F 0 1881
Sheffield
Yorkshire

Registration District:
Ecclesall Bierlow Sub District:
Nether Hallam Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Nether Hallam Municipal Borough:
Address:
51, Woodland St, Nether Hallam County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

But prob not him as he is John Thomas on later census...

Hmmm not sure ... I will have a think about this one.

Thank you again

Births Mar 1849
Hogg John James Baker Ecclesall Bierw 22 _09
HOGG John James Butler Ecclesall B 22 109

1871 England Census
John James Butler Hogg
Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Ecclesall, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ecclesfield Ecclesiastical parish: Wadsley Town: Wadsley Bridge County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Wortley Sub-registration district: Ecclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 175
Piece: 4657 Folio: 120 Page Number: 34

Maria Marshall 60
John James Butler Hogg 22 steel forgeman
Edward Dearden 26

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4657; Folio: 120; Page: 34; GSU roll: 847219.


1901 England Census
John J B Hogg
Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Boarder Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Occupation: steel forgeman
Condition as to marriage: Widower
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 48 Household schedule number: 185 Piece: 4354 Folio: 111
Page Number: 29

George Bell 26
Annie E Bell 26
Edith A Bell 3
Beatrice Bell 1
John J B Hogg 51

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4354; Folio: 111; Page: 29.

Hmmm interesting ... looks as though he didn't remarry.

I have looked for a death but can't see anything.

Do you think that John James BAKER Hogg and John James BUTLER Hogg both born in Ecclesall Bierw in 1849 are possibly the same person?

Thanks,

Peter

Yes, the same person.
Go to free bmd to compare the images, to see why different transcribers have interpreted the same image differently.

Yes I can see why this has happened ... to me it is John James BUTLER ... can you spot a death? Or a possible emmigration?