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mumof4

mumof4 Report 28 Jun 2011 13:39

Hello
I'm in thr process of confirming information i've gained from relations and I'm stuck with a couple of births. Albert Field b 1888 and Mary Sherwood b 1900 had five children, Peter b 1928 Ottershaw, Derek b 1930 Chersey, Gladys b 1932 Chertsey, Roy b 1935 Chertsey and Clifford b 1938 Chertsey.

Peter died in 1985 and from the records I can confirm a birth date of 18/02/1928 but I can't find a corresponding birth entry. Likewise I'm unable to find an entry for Clifford despite searching other years and without a first name. I've also searched using the mothers surname as the parents didn't marry.

I've looked here on genes reunited and on freebmd.org.uk.

Can anyone help please? :-S

Flick

Flick Report 28 Jun 2011 13:46

Was Sherwood Mary's maiden name?

What surname did the children use?

mumof4

mumof4 Report 28 Jun 2011 13:49

Yes she was Mary Louisa Sherwood but used the name Field and was recorded in the deaths as Mary L Field.

Potty

Potty Report 28 Jun 2011 13:55

Could Mary have been married before?

Name: Peter Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Sherwood
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Registration district: Chertsey
Inferred County: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 109 (click to see others on page)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2011 13:55


1911 census - household transcription
Person: SHERWOOD, Mary Louisia
Address: 32 Pyrcroft Road Chertsey


SHERWOOD, William Husband Married M 40 1871 Labourer - General Chertsey Surrey VIEW
SHERWOOD, Ada Wife Married
23 years F 40 1871 Addlestone Surrey VIEW
SHERWOOD, Edith Maud Daughter F 21 1890 Laundry Maid Addlestone Surrey VIEW
SHERWOOD, William Robert Son M 17 1894 Moulder Addlestone Surrey VIEW
SHERWOOD, Rosinia May Daughter F 15 1896 Addlestone Surrey VIEW
SHERWOOD, Mary Louisia Daughter F 12 1899 Chertsey Surrey VIEW
SHERWOOD, Ella Lydia Daughter F 6 1905 Chertsey Surrey VIEW
SHERWOOD, Nelly Daughter F 2 1909 Chertsey Surrey VIEW
SHERWOOD, John Henry Grandson M 3 1908 Chertsey Surrey VIEW
SHERWOOD, Ivy Lylian Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Chertsey Surrey VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2997 Reference:
RG14PN2997 RG78PN105 RD32 SD2 ED2 SN178

Registration District:
Chertsey Sub District:
Chertsey Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Chertsey

Address:
32 Pyrcroft Road Chertsey County:
Surrey
(9 children born....2 had died)

Flick

Flick Report 28 Jun 2011 13:57

As she didn't marry Field, an earlier marriage is the probable explanation

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jun 2011 13:59

Good thinking Potty

?
Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
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Dodd Mary A Russell Chertsey 2a 179
Edwards John Sherwood Chertsey 2a 179
Russell Hector Dodd Chertsey 2a 179
Sherwood Mary L Edwards Chertsey 2a 179

Flick

Flick Report 28 Jun 2011 13:59

Did you KNOW Mary had been married???

mumof4

mumof4 Report 28 Jun 2011 14:00

The children were registered as Field or at least Derek, Gladys and Roy were. I have found these 3 on Free BMD Derek b Dec 1930 Chertsey 2a 114
Gladys b Dec 1932 Chertsey 2a 131 and Roy b Sept 1935 Surrey NW 2a 489.

I received the information from one of the son's and I was just confirming it all which is where I hit the problems. I wanted to make sure I've covered all aspects before going back to him as it may be something he is unaware of?!

Helen

Helen Report 28 Jun 2011 14:01

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 about Peter Edwards
Name: Peter Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Sherwood
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Registration district: Chertsey
Inferred County: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 109 (click to see others on page)

A possible

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2011 14:01

Looking at that Edwards Marriage..........


Births Jun 1928 (>99%)
EDWARDS Peter Sherwood Chertsey 2a 109

Potty

Potty Report 28 Jun 2011 14:02

Are the last three of these births just a coincidence:

PreviewName: John W Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Sherwood
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1920
Registration district: Chertsey
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a

Name: Joan D Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Sherwood
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1922
Registration district: Chertsey
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a

Name: Peter Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Sherwood
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Registration district: Chertsey
Inferred County: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a


Name: Derek A Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Sherwood
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1930
Registration district: Chertsey
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a

Name: Gladys Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Sherwood
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1932
Registration district: Chertsey
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jun 2011 14:03

Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Edwards Derek A Sherwood Chertsey 2a 114

mumof4

mumof4 Report 28 Jun 2011 14:04

I had no idea Mary had been married before and that would certainly explain the birth of Peter being under a different name. Clifford at the other end of the timeline is still a mystery though.

Potty

Potty Report 28 Jun 2011 14:05

On the same page in the Index - I think you need to get some birth certs because it looks as if at least Gladys is indexed under both names:

Gladys Edwards Oct-Nov-Dec 1932 Chertsey Kent
Gladys Field Oct-Nov-Dec 1932 Chertsey Kent

Edit - see from PH's post that Derek is also indexed twice.

Flick

Flick Report 28 Jun 2011 14:06

No sign of Clifford.......you'll need to get more info from whoever your source is............

Potty

Potty Report 28 Jun 2011 14:11

Given the Edwards connection?

Name: Clifford Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Edwards
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1938
Registration district: Surrey North Western
Inferred County: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 545

mumof4

mumof4 Report 28 Jun 2011 14:12

This has been interesting - I think I'll have to tread carefully or find a different way around it. I certainly wouldn't want to cause any problems. many thinks to all of you who came up with ideas and records. It will keep me busy for a while. x