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Thank you Thelma, that is brilliant news. I will certianly be using your advice about not using the GRO reference in the future. That is another thing that has change since I last started researching my family tree 3 years ago.
Best wishes Helen

It may be of interest to read :-

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1260269

It goes someway to explaining why you should not order certs. with a GRO ref. unless you are sure it is the right one.

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate all your help.
Helen

Order the birth from the GRO without giving a reference and they will refund your money if the cert. is the wrong one.
I guess that Frederick was born Hole and his mother later took the name of Miller.
All should become clear if you find his mother's previous name(s)
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1851
Edward Miller Anna Maria abt 1773 Bradninch, Devon, England Head Broadclyst, Devon

Anna Maria Miller Edward abt 1805 Payhembury, Devon, England Wife Broadclyst, Devon

Frederick Miller Edward,
Anna Maria abt 1839 Eceter, Devon, England Son Broadclyst, Devon

Caroline Miller Edward,
Anna Maria abt 1844 Broadclist, Devon, England Daughter Broadclyst, Devon

Anna Maria Miller Edward,
Anna Maria abt 1851 Broadclist, Devon, England Daughter Broadclyst, Devon
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Marriage
Anna Maria Hole Oct-Nov-Dec 1851 Newton Abbot Devonshire
View Record
Edward Miller Oct-Nov-Dec 1851 Newton Abbot

I am a little confused about whether the mariage reference I have is the correct one as Alices's parents are known as Frederick and Jane Miller not Hole on the censuses and as Frederick miller on his daughters marriage certificate. However Frederick Miller Hole married Jane Chamberlain at the right time and in the right place. Does anyone have any suggestions why he would use his first and middle names rather than his last name.
Thank you.
Helen

Marriages Jun 1871
Chamberlain Jane Tiverton
5b 790

Hole Frederick Miller Tiverton
5b 790

Thank you for your replies, It seems that Tiverton has it by a head :-) Is there any way to check it first or do I just have to pick a certificate, buy it and hope it is the right one and if it isn't buy another one for £9.25?

1911 census - married 38 years

Best wishes, Helen
p.s I am at the library and my time is running out but I will try to respond to any posts as soon as I am able. I do appreciate all your help.

Fred and Jane are together on the 1881 census living in Bradninch so yes it probably is their marriage.
On the 1911 census how long does it say Fred and Jane have been married?

Bradninch was registration district Tiverton from 1837 upto 1974


http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/tiverton.html

Roy

Surely Tiverton district?
1891 England Census
about Annie Miller
Name: Annie Miller
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Frederick Miller
Mother's name: Jane Miller
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradninch, Devon, England

Civil parish: Bradninch
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradninch
Town: Bradninch
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Tiverton <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I would appreciate some help in finding the correct birth reference for Annie Miller and then the marriage of her parents please.

I got the birth certificate of her son Francis Edgar Walker, then her marriage certificate and finally census records (see below)

Birth
Francis Edgar walker born 1904 beare, broadclyst, heavitree devon
Parents Annie walker formally miller father Francis Henry walker paper maker

Marriage 1904 tiverton devon
Annie miller 21 years (abt 1883) paper sorter living bradninch, devon father Frederick miller labourer
Francis Henry walker 24 years paper maker living silverton, devon father William walker deceased labourer
Witnesses Albert chamberlain and Alice miller

1911 census
bradninch tiverton devon
Annie miller 25 years (abt 1886) paper sorter birth bradninch, devon
married to
Francis Henry walker 31 years paper making birth silverton, devon
son
Edgar walker 6 years born breadclyst devon

1901 census
Annie miller 15 years (abt 1886) servant domestic birth bradninch, devon, living bradninch single

Francis walker 22 years beaterman at paper mills birth silverton, devon, living silverton, tiverton devon single mother sarah walker

1891 census
Annie miller 5 years (abt 1886) birth bradninch, devon, living bradninch
Parents
Frederick miller 50 years agricultural labourer birth broadclyst devon
Jane miller 37 years mill hand paper birth bradninch
Sister Alice 8 years + others

1911 census
Frederick miller 73 years Old Age Pensioner birth Exeter devon, living bradninch devon
Married to
Jane miller 57 years rag sorter paper mill birth bradninch, devon
John chamberlain wife’s father 81 years birth brandninch devon

I have found these birth references but which one should I get and are there others?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Annie Miller
Name: Annie Miller
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1883
Registration district: St Thomas
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 71


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Anne Maria Miller
Name: Anne Maria Miller
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1886
Registration district: Tiverton
Inferred County: Devon, Somerset
Volume: 5b
Page: 425


On the 1911 census Alice’s mothers father is noted as John Chamberlain but the only marriage reference that I can find is this one…

Marriages Jun 1871
Chamberlain Jane Tiverton
5b 790

Hole Frederick Miller Tiverton
5b 790


Is this the correct one do you think?
Thank you for looking at my post.

Helen