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1891 census help please

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Carter

Carter Report 1 Jul 2011 13:09

On the 1891 census i have the marsh family living in atherton lancashire.
it states they have a daughter alice who was born in isle of man 1867 and a daughter eliza born atherton 1888.
when i have looked at the images alice and eliza dont have the surname marsh but i cant read it properly and i cant make out what alice's occupation is either.
if someone could take a look i would very much appreciate it
cheers

91 England Census about Alice Marsh
Name: Alice Marsh
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Marsh
Mother's name: Sarah Marsh
Gender: Female
Where born: Isle of Man, Isle of Man

Civil parish: Atherton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Atherton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3090
Folio: 91
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
John Marsh 50
Sarah Marsh 56
Alpine Marsh 26
Emma Marsh 16
William Marsh 15
Fred Marsh 11
Alice Marsh 24
Eliza Marsh 3

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3090; Folio 91; Page 21; GSU roll: 6098200.

K

K Report 1 Jul 2011 13:29

The writing is not good and the D for ditto is under the surname does not help. Could the surname be something like Hoskins??

Could the occupation be Servant (or similar) in Bolt Works?

K

K Report 1 Jul 2011 13:32

This is the same record from FMP

MARSH, John Head Married M 50 1841 Screwer On Pit Brow
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, Sarah Wife Married F 56 1835
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, Alfred Son Single M 26 1865 Coal Miner
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, Emma Daughter F 16 1875 Screwer In Bolt Works
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, William Son M 15 1876 Screwer In Bolt Works
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
MARSH, Fred Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
HENDON, Alice Daughter Widow F 24 1867 Screwer In Bolt Works
Isle of Man VIEW
HENDON, Eliza ? Daughter F 3 1888
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3090 Folio:
91 Page:
21

Registration District:
Leigh Sub District:
Atherton Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Johns

Civil Parish:
Atherton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Church Passage, Atherton County:
Lancashire

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 1 Jul 2011 13:34

Looks like it could be Flanagan to me,

Alice is down as widow, found this marriage?

>>>>>>> Patrick Flanagan Jul-Aug-Sep 1885 Leigh Lancashire

>>>>>>>Alice Ranicar Marsh Jul-Aug-Sep 1885 Leigh Lancashire

Sarah Ellen Ogden Jul-Aug-Sep 1885 Leigh Lancashire

Daniel Ridings Jul-Aug-Sep 1885 Leigh Lancashire


but cannot find a death for him

Roy

Carter

Carter Report 1 Jul 2011 13:54

thanks so much for your help it really is very much appreciated
cheers x

K

K Report 1 Jul 2011 13:56

Possible ?? From Lancashire Online Parish Clerks SIte

Baptisms: 2 Oct 1887 St John the Baptist, Atherton, Lancashire, England
Eliza Heaton - Daughter of Alice Heaton
Born: 18 Sep 1887
Abode: 17 Spring Gardens
Notes: Base born
Baptised by: J. Appleyard, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1899, Page 54, Entry 428
Source: LDS Film 1885669

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 1 Jul 2011 13:57

LOL! And I'm going for Heaton.
1881 census transcription details for: 16, Cannon St, Atherton
RG number: RG11 Piece: 3809 Folio: 51 Page: 21


Reg. District: Leigh Sub District: Atherton
Parish: Atherton Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 16, Cannon St, Atherton
County: Lancashire

HEATON, John Head Married M 43 1838 Lab At Coal Pit
Atherton
Lancashire
HEATON, Margaret Wife Married F 39 1842
Isle of Man
>>HEATON, Alice Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar
Isle of Man
HEATON, John Wm Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Atherton
Lancashire
HEATON, Emma Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Atherton
Lancashire
HEATON, Martha Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Atherton
Lancashire
HEATON, Magt Daughter Single F 0 1881
Atherton
Lancashire


Births Dec 1887
HEATON Eliza Leigh 8c 283

I think they must have just been lodging with the Marsh family-whoever they were!

Maureen

Edit: Sorry,K-our posts overlapped there. Looks like we're on the same track,though!

K

K Report 1 Jul 2011 13:58

1881 for the above?? Snap Maureen!

Name: Alice Heaton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Heaton
Mother's name: Margaret Heaton
Gender: Female
Where born: Isle of Man, Isle of Man

Civil parish: Atherton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 16 Cannon St
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3809
Folio: 51
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
John Heaton 43
Margaret Heaton 39
Alice Heaton 13
John Wm. Heaton 11
Emma Heaton 9
Martha Heaton 7
Magt Heaton 0

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 1 Jul 2011 14:03

Are you going to post this one,K???
Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%)
HEATON Eliza 8 Leigh 8c 210

Maureen ;-)

K

K Report 1 Jul 2011 14:06

No - but I found this

Kay :-)


Marriage: 21 Dec 1895 St John the Baptist, Atherton, Lancashire, England
Alfred Knowles - 31 Collier Bachelor of Hesketh's Yard
Alice Heaton - 28 Bolt Maker Spinster of Cannon Street
Groom's Father: William Knowles, Collier (deceased)
Bride's Father: John Heaton, Sinker
Witness: Hargreaves Robinson; Emma Heaton
Married by Banns by: William Nuttall, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1891 - 1901, Page 103, Entry 205
Source: LDS Film 1885670: Manchester Central Library Archives & Local Studies MFPR 1187

Carter

Carter Report 1 Jul 2011 14:14

WOW YOU ARE SO FAST AND SO BRILLIANT
thanks so much.
cheers x