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ANDERSSEN / PAPE MARRIAGE LIVERPOOL 1873

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Mary

Mary Report 2 Jul 2011 20:10

Isabella PAPE a widow age 26 years married a Sowen ANDERSSEN in Liverpool in December 1873. Sowen was a Mariner.

Sowen's father was down on the cert, as Morgus Anderssen a fisherman.

Does anyone recognise this couple ?

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 2 Jul 2011 20:32

Hello Mary,

What info are you after?

What was Isabella's fathers name? How old was Sowen? Who were the witnesses?

If you can provide as much info as possible then hopefully we maybe able to help??

Dee x

Penny

Penny Report 2 Jul 2011 20:53

I cant see Sowen or Isabella in 1881 census, nor see any Anderssen births

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Jul 2011 21:17

Isabella Pape
England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1606-1900

birth: 1852
residence: 30 Nov 1873 —225 Frederick Street, Liverpool, Lancaster
marriage: S Michael, Liverpool
spouse: Svwen Anderssen

record title: England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1606-1900
name: Svwen Anderssen
event: Intended marriage
event date: 30 Nov 1873
residence: 225 Frederick Street, Liverpool, Lancaster
gender: Male
age: 21
marital status: Batchelor
spouse: Isabella Pape
spouse's residence: 225 Frederick Street, Liverpool, Lancaster
spouse's age: 21
spouse's marital status: Widowed
digital folder number: 4018688

patchem

patchem Report 2 Jul 2011 22:30

This was posted on ancestry in 2008:

In the Births, Marriages and Deaths published in The Liverpool Mercury for Friday, 5 December 1873 the following -
On December 2nd at St Michael's Upper Pitt Street, Liverpool SOWEN ANDERSSEN to MRS ISABELLA PAPE.

Does anyone recognise this couple please ?

I have reason to believe that Isabella might be 'mine', she was born Isabella Whitfield, married a Roger Pape in 1869 (he was a Mariner), he died just before the 1871 English census where she is shown as a widow visiting her sister (a McCoid family).

Any help appreciated.

Kind regards, Pauline Thomas

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Jul 2011 22:35

1871 ?

Name: Isabella Pape
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Preston Quarter
Ecclesiastical parish: Mount Pleasant
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub-registration district: St Bees
ED, institution, or vessel: 16d
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 5260
Folio: 86
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew McCoid 28
Mary Ann McCoid 26
John McCoid 1 Year, 11 Months
James McCoid 8 Months
Isabella Pape 24



So age a bit out

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2011 03:29

this is the marriage of a Roger Pape to an Isabella Whitfield, from beta.familysearch

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: Roger Pape
groom's birth date: 1843
groom's age: 26
bride's name: Isabella Whitfield
bride's birth date: 1846
bride's age: 23
marriage date: 20 Feb 1869
marriage place: St. John'S, Workington, Cumberland, England
groom's father's name: Richard Pape
bride's father's name: John Whitfield
indexing project (batch) number: I03762-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1472070


and


record title: England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1606-1900

name: Sowen Anderssen
event: Marriage
event date: 01 Dec 1873
event place: Cheshire, England
gender: Male
spouse: Isabella Pape
spouse's marital status: Widowed
digital folder number: 4018552







sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2011 03:34

from marriages on ancestry

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Isabella Pape

Name: Isabella Pape
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1873
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 135

Spouse:- Sowen Anderssen Oct-Nov-Dec 1873 Liverpool Lancashire



I suggest that you buy this marriage certificate.

It will cost you £9.25 from GRO


It will have on it :-

Isabella's maiden name

Isabella's father's anme

Sowen Anderssen's father's name



and that will solve your problem!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2011 03:43

I wonder if this could be him?


1871 Census

Name: Soren Andersen
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: O. Seaman (Seaman)
Gender: Male
Where born: Remders, Denmark
Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Stockton On Tees
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: Randers

Niels Peter Sorensen 44 Master
Niels Crosphan Niderpoe 29
Niels Peter Olsen 36
Julius Nielsen 23
Soren Andersen 20
Careftian Coveptengen 17



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2011 03:44

Are Mary of this thread and Pauline of the ancestry request related?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jul 2011 11:18

??

Mogen Christian Andersen
Denmark Baptisms, 1618-1923

residence: Ringkøbing, Denmark
parents: Anders Mogensen, Karen Christensdr

record title: Denmark Baptisms, 1618-1923
name: Mogen Christian Andersen
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 15 Sep 1833
baptism/christening place: , HADERUP, RINGKOBING, DENMARK
father's name: Anders Mogensen
mother's name: Karen Christensdr
indexing project (batch) number: C20363-1
system origin: Denmark-ODM
source film number:

Mary

Mary Report 3 Jul 2011 12:07

ISABELLA PAPE MARRIAGE
My thanks to all who have replied to my message of yesterday, I am astounded by the kind people who have done some delving on my behalf.
I now have who I think is Sowen in the 18781 and his parents. If this proves correct I know that he was Danish and not from any other Scandinavian country.
My special thanks.
Kind regards, Mary