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Hi All,

Please could someone help in finding Frederick/Fredrick Yates abt 1843
Lichfield,Staffordshire in 1861/51 census

I believe he moved from Staffordshire to Durham with my gg grandmother between 1865 - 1869 as she was already married to my gg grandfather.

On the marriage cert i have in1869 Durham Register office his father was Samuel Yates -Coal Miner

Many Thanks
Val

For ref:

1871 England Census
about Fredrick Gates
Name: Fredrick Gates
[Fredrick Yates]
[Fredrick Yates]
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Gates
Gender: Male
Where born: Lichfield, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Trimdon
Town: Trimdon
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Sedgefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 9
Piece: 4911
Folio: 57
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Fredrick Gates 28
Charlotte Gates 31
Joseph Gates 6
Sarah Gates 4
Annie Gates 1

Ginny,

Thats him with my gg grandmother

Joseph Is Fredricks stepson

Thanks
Val

And this with no parents

1851 England Census
about Fredrick Yates
Name: Fredrick Yates
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Nk, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Wednesbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Wednesbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Wednesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1q
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2027
Folio: 381
Page Number: 6

Frederick 9
Samuel 11

Ginny,

I wondered about that one but couldnt be sure

Wonder if this is his dads death


Deaths Sep 1848 (>99%)
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Yates Samuel West Bromwich 18 377

Ginny / TootyFruity,


It could be him in the 1881census it says he was born in Stavley Derbyshire,

he married again I think in 1874 the same year my gg grandmother died

Regards
Val

Wht about this for his dad and his older brother Samuel who is 11 on the 1851


1841 England Census
about Samuel Yater
Name: Samuel Yater
[Samuel Yates]
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Uttoxeter
Hundred: South Totmonslow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Uttoxeter
Sub-registration district: Uttoxeter
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1007
Book: 16
Folio: 59
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Yater 35
Margaret Yater 25
William Yater 4
James Yater 2
Samuel Yater 10 MO

I dont think that last census is right as the father is a butcher

This is a maybe for Sams birth


Births Mar 1840 (>99%)
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Yates Samuel W Bromwich 18 582

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Ginny,

Yes that could be him, that's brill :-)


Oh well

Thanks very much
Val

The boys without parents on the 1851 census as noted above were "Pauper Scholars" in a Workhouse

Nope, that 41 census isnt them as they are here in 1851

1861 England Census
about Margaret Yates
Name: Margaret Yates
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel Yates
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingsley, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Uttoxeter
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Uttoxeter
Sub-registration district: Uttoxeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Piece: 1955
Folio: 76
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Yates 62
Margaret Yates 50
Samuel Yates 20
Ann Yates 18
Elizabeth Yates 10
Harriet Yates 6


That birth for Sam might be worth getting though

x

Ginny

I'll have to save some pennies to get the birth cert


Many Thanks for your help

I appreciate it


Val