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I am trying to find any details on Alfred Ashman and his wife Ellen ( nee Gilson ) who emigrated I think to Allegheny Pennsylvania in the mid 1880's Also Ellen brother Richard who I believe went to Alleghany about 1893 to see Ellen who was then a widow. I don't know if Richard or Ellen stayed in USA. Both were born in Holcombe Somerset, Ellen in 1861 and Richard in 1868
Any help would be so much appreciated
Trudy

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Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
Name: Ellen Ashman
Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1885
Age: 24 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: British Prince
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Last Residence: England
Birthplace: England
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_6
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Name: Alf Ashman (a butcher)
Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1885
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: British Prince
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Last Residence: England
Birthplace: England
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_6

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1900 US census:

Name: Richard Gilson
Home in 1900: Connellsville, Fayette, Pennsylvania
Age: 30
Birth Date: Jul 1869
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Spouse's Name: Ella Gilson
Marriage year: 1899
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 1
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Gilson 30
Ella Gilson 34
Robert P Gilson 4/12

1910 US census:
Name: Richard Gilson
Age in 1910: 40
Estimated Birth Year: 1870
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Spouse's Name: Ella Gilson
Home in 1910: Morgantown Ward 5, Monongalia, West Virginia
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1893
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Gilson 40
Ella Gilson 45
Robert Gilson 10
Alfred Gilson 9
Boyd Gilson 7
Hoyd Gilson 7
Charles Gilson 4
Orvile Gilson 2
Ella Gilson 4/12
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Hanna Lewis 16

1920 US census:
Name: Richard Gilson
Home in 1920: Delaware, Mercer, Pennsylvania
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Ella Gilson
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1893
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Gilson 50
Ella Gilson 54
Robert P Gilson 19
Affred A Gilson 18
Boyd R Gilson 16
Lloyd T Gilson 16
Charles P Gilson 14
Orvill L Gilson 12
Ella V Gilson 10

1930 US census:
Name: Richard Gillson
Home in 1930: Delaware, Mercer, Pennsylvania
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Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Ella Gillson
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Gillson 61
Ella Gillson 63
Orval L Gillson 22
Alberta E Gillson 19
James R Gillson 2 6/12
Charles P Gillson 25
Ella V Gillson 20
Alice A Gillson 1 2/12

Just for info a maybe but different place of birth

On ancestry - Day family tree.

Alfred Ashman born 1861 Mangotsfield Glous UK
Married 1885 Glous.
Death 1893 Pennsylvania
Parents Able Ashman Emma Bracer
Spouse Ellen Gilson

Complete shot in the dark. A widow, right birth year, right year of immigration:

1900 US census:
Name: Ellen Aston
Home in 1900: Camden Ward 10, Camden, New Jersey
[Camden, Camden, New Jersey]
Age: 38
Birth Date: Aug 1861
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1885
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 0
Mother: How many children: 1
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Aston 38
Ellen Sweeten Unkn

I wonder if this is connected?

COAL MINERS MEMORIAL
FOREST HILL MINE
[ A ]
Ashman, Alfred
(Miner, Pick Miner ca.1892, Forest Hill Mine, Allegheny Co., PA, Age 34, married, 3 children.);
(Killed. Killed by loose debris falling upon him while working in a ditch, in the Forest Hill Mine, Oct. 20, 1892.)

Teresa

Thank you, thank you, thank you I am amazed just how quickly you look up and find information I really appreciate your time and effort.
I will study all this and certainly look at the tree on ancestry as I have membership but not world wide.
You are brilliant

more food for thought:

Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959 for Ethelyn Ashman
Groom: Newton Hutchison
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Date of Birth: 21 Sep 1883
Groom's Place of Birth: , Brown, Indiana
Groom's Residence: Hamblen Twp, ,
Groom's Number of Marriage:
Groom's Father: Grammar Hutchison
Groom's Mother: Mary Richardson
Bride: Ethelyn Ashman
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Date of Birth: 22 Jan 1892
Bride's Place of Birth: , , Pennsylvania
Bride's Residence: , Brown, Indiana
Bride's Number of Marriage:
Bride's Father: Alfred Ashman
Bride's Mother: Ellen Gilson
Informant Name:
Date of License: 22 Jun 1912
County of License: Brown
Date of Marriage: 22 Jun 1912
Place of Marriage: , Brown, Indiana
Official:
Record Number:
Film Number: 1295893
Digital Folder Number: 4191667
Image Number: 00068
Number of Images: 1



Indiana Marriages, 1780-1992 for Laura Ashman
Groom's Name: David Thomas Webb
Groom's Birth Date: 03 Dec 1884
Groom's Birthplace: Crom Avon, Wales
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Laura Ashman
Bride's Birth Date: 19 Dec 1886
Bride's Birthplace: Mckeesport, Pennsylvania
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 07 Apr 1906
Marriage Place: Madison, Indiana
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Webb
Groom's Mother's Name: Louisa Thomas
Bride's Father's Name: Alford Ashman
Bride's Mother's Name: Ella Gilson
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01176-6
System Origin: Indiana-ODM
Source Film Number: 2108305
Reference Number:


1920 United States Federal Census about Ellen Clark
Name: Ellen Clark
Home in 1920: Hamblen, Brown, Indiana
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel Clark
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of immigration: 1884
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Clark 53
[50]
[55]
Ellen Clark 53
Charles Clark 23
[22]
Lucy Clark 20
Florence Clark 18
William Clark 14
Albert Clark 76


Teresa

Maybe??? Looks Like this could be Ellen remarried

1900 United States Federal Census about Ellen Clark
Name: Ellen Clark
Home in 1900: Pipe Creek, Madison, Indiana
[Madison, Indiana]
Age: 35
Birth Date: Aug 1864
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 5
Mother: How many children: 5
Spouse's Name: Samuel Clark
Marriage year: 1894
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 6
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Clark 30
Ellen Clark 35
Laura Ashman 13
Robert Ashman 10
Ethel Ashman 8
Charlie Clark 4
Lucy Clark 1


1910 United States Federal Census about Ellen Clark
Name: Ellen Clark
Age in 1910: 42
Estimated Birth Year: 1868
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Spouse's Name: Samuel Clark
Home in 1910: Hamblen, Brown, Indiana
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of immigration: 1879
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Clark 39 is a Farmer
Ellen Clark 42
Charles Clark 14
Lucy Clark 10
Florance Clark 8
William Clark 4


1920 United States Federal Census about Ellen Clark
Name: Ellen Clark
Home in 1920: Hamblen, Brown, Indiana
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel Clark
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of immigration: 1884
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Clark 53
[50]
[55]
Ellen Clark 53
Charles Clark 23
[22]
Lucy Clark 20
Florence Clark 18
William Clark 14
Albert Clark 76


Samuel on his own
1930 United States Federal Census about Samuel Clark
Name: Samuel Clark
Home in 1930: Hamblen, Brown, Indiana
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Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Clark 60

Teresa

Wow Teresa what a lot of information and yes I think you are completely on the right track.
Thank you soooo much, you're a star
Regards
Trudy

Trudy there is a tree on ancestry with a photo of Ellen Gilson if you do a search.

Teresa

Brown Co is abt 40 m S of Indianapolis.
Note addy is often in/near left margin e.g., 1930 is Oliver Rd.

You can search IN marrs, and the 1900 census (the latter with images) at:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&
region=NORTH_AMERICA

1910 http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po340unit#page/n887/mode/1up
1920 http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu424unit#page/n585/mode/1up
1930 http://www.archive.org/stream/indianacensus00reel574#page/n428/mode/1up

Thanks MGNV....I'll take a look at that
Trudy