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Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 15 Jul 2011 07:10

haha good one, Vicci - interesting choice of middle name :-) (and first name)

suspect Jas was not the father since he went off to work at sea a couple of years earlier!!!!

Vicci

Vicci Report 15 Jul 2011 04:54

Joseph Penn Allaway
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1870
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 237

hmmmm....

Researching:
Lashmore, Lines, Smith, Reilly, Mendus

Vicci

Vicci Report 15 Jul 2011 04:51

Record Type: Birth
Estimated Birth Date: 8 Aug 1870
Mother's name: Ada Allaway
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington
Borough: Islington
County: Middlesex

i believe this is the child named as Joseph Penn on the 1871 census
no first name given on register
from register of births at workhouse St Mary's Islington

says "Legitimate"

Researching:
Lashmore, Lines, Smith, Reilly, Mendus

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 15 Jul 2011 02:34

Good work, Lynski. Her birthplace of Devon fits the birth in Stoke Damerel.

But fast work if she married Jas in 1867 and then was with Jos by 1871 Census, with a son!

And her death in 1888 as Penn means it makes sense she is not with him in 1891 census.

But nope, no 'marriage'.

Mind you if Jas took off to sea in 1867, and did not return, she may have assumed she had been deserted!

Lynski

Lynski Report 11 Jul 2011 03:34

1871 census -

PENN, Joseph Head M 28 1843 Middlesex VIEW
PENN, Ada Wife F 25 1846 Devon VIEW
PENN, Joseph Son M 0 1871 Middlesex VIEW

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RG number: RG10 Piece: 292 Folio: 6 Page: 6

Registration District: Islington Sub District: Islington, East Enumeration District: 33 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Middlesex Address:
Pickering St, Islington, Middlesex County: London, Middlesex

I cannot find a marriage for Joseph Penn to Ada?????

Researching:
Bagley, Millington, Morrey, Edwards, Sims, Weaver

Lynski

Lynski Report 11 Jul 2011 03:23

There is only this death on FreeBMD??

Deaths Jun 1888 (>99%)
PENN Ada Valenza M 42 Holborn 1b 406

Births Dec 1845 (>99%)
Lancaster Ada Valenza Millar Stoke Damerel 9 422


Marriages Mar 1867 (>99%)
Allaway James William Edmonton 3a 177
Lancaster Ada Valenza M Edmonton 3a 177

Could she have stayed in England and lived with Joseph Penn????

1881 census -

PENN, Joseph Head Married M 38 1843 Auctioneers Porter
Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW
PENN, Ada Wife Married F 35 1846
Devonport Devon VIEW
PENN, J Son Single M 11 1870
Islington Middlesex VIEW
PENN, G F Son Single M 6 1875
Clerkenwell Middlesex VIEW
PENN, M H Daughter Single F 3 1878
Holborn Middlesex VIEW

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RG number: RG11 Piece: 352 Folio: 8 Page: 10

Registration District: Holborn Sub District: Amwell Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: Clerkenwell Municipal Borough: Address: 28, Northampton Rd, Clerkenwell County:
Middlesex

She is not with Joseph in 1891??

Researching:
Bagley, Millington, Morrey, Edwards, Sims, Weaver

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 11 Jul 2011 02:41

According to the IGI, Ada (b. 1846) died in 1888. Doesn't say where.

Did Jas not stay in NSW?

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 9 Jul 2011 23:03

thank you, both for your help

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 9 Jul 2011 20:56

AB part of crew no wives.

Researching:
For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 9 Jul 2011 20:05

thank you for that Ginny, would it be possible for you to tell me if he was alone, as I have him down as being married in the same year, but wasn't sure if he went there, with his wife, or not.
Thanks a lot for your help

Gee

Gee Report 9 Jul 2011 20:03

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
about James W Allaway
Name: James W Allaway
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Age: 21
Port of Departure: London
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 7 Aug 1867
Vessel Name: Bruckley Castle
Origin Location: Camberwell

Researching:

poppygirl

poppygirl Report 9 Jul 2011 19:57

I am trying to find a James William Alloway, on the departure list for Australia, ( NSW unassisted passenger list 1826-1922. I would like to know who he left, for Australia with, if possible, please.
(he was born in 1846) in Newington, Surrey. He married in 1867, to an Ada Valenza Lancaster. I HAVE THE MARRIAGE RECORD, FOR THEM, ALSO JAMES BIRTH RECORD, AND THE CENSUS AS WELL, FOR THEM IN THE UK

I would just like to know if anyone can access the 'departure' or even arrival of them in Australia, please. I realise that the Australain people will now be in theri beds, but if anyone has a 'worldwide access to Ancestry' then, maybe they could access the details, from there.

Thank you so much for your help.
I do need to go out, for a while, and my apologies for that, but hope that someone will be able to help.

Thank you