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Are either of these the one that you have?

Births Mar 1869 (>99%)
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Foster Elizabeth Wigan 8c 7

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Births Dec 1869 (>99%)
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FOSTER Elizabeth Ann Wigan 8c 35

James Forster married Margaret Tomlinson

Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%)
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Deacon James Wigan 8c 117
>>Forster James Wigan 8c 117
Gore Sarah Wigan 8c 117
>>Tomlinson Margaret Wigan 8c 117

So this is the birth certificate you need. She had a second name. Ellen.

Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
FORSTER Elizabeth Ellen Standish Wigan & Leigh TOMLINSON STND/14/290

Births Sep 1868 (>99%)
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Forster Elizabeth Ellen Wigan 8c 8

Carolyn
I think you have the correct marriage certificate but the wrong birth certificate.

This is Elizabeth in 1891 married to Edward Barnes.
She has named her first daughter Margaret which makes me think that she followed the traditional naming pattern and named her after her mother. So she was the daughter of James the blacksmith and Margaret. Her birth maybe wasn't registered as before 1874 the onus was on the Registrar to find the births and get them registered and parents didn't make the effort until they had to after 1874 when they would incur a fine for not registering a birth.

BARNES, Edward Head Married M 24 1867 Coal Miner
Tredegar
Wales VIEW
BARNES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 22 1869 Dress Maker
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
BARNES, Margaret A Daughter F 3 1888
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
BARNES, Edward Son M 0 (1M) 1891
Parr
Lancashire VIEW


Civil Parish:
Parr Municipal Borough:
St Helens Address:
100, Chancery Lane, Parr, St Helens County:
Lancashire

Margee thank you. I don't know I'm getting a bit lost with this one x

I have Fosters in my tree and they're sometimes listed as Forster. I think it was the accent. How many times have you seen father written as farther

The family in 1871:

1871 England Census
about Joseph Foster Name: Joseph Foster
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Foster
Mother's name: Margret Foster
Gender: Male
Where born: Standish, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Langtree and Standish
Ecclesiastical parish: Standish
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Standish
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 3881
Folio: 40
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James Foster 26
Margret Foster 22
Elizebeth Foster 2
Joseph Foster 1
John Hyde 35

But James is a coal miner.

Pam the only thing is they are Foster and mine are Forsters

nudge

Pam, thats great, thank you so much

Margee Yes age 20 in June 1888

Does it give Elizabeth's age on the marriage certificate?

How about James Foster Blacksmith and Joseph as brother.
1881
FOSTER, James Head Married M 37 1844 Blacksmith Standish Lancashire
FOSTER, Margaret Wife Married F 30 1851 Dalton Lancashire
FOSTER, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Shevington Lancashire
FOSTER, Joseph Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Standish Lancashire
FOSTER, Mary Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Standish Lancashire
FOSTER, Margaret Daughter Single F 4 1877 Shevington Lancashire

RG number: RG11 Piece: 3758 Folio: 116 Page: 8
Registration District: Wigan Sub District: Standish Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: Shevington Municipal Borough: Address: Shevington Moor, Shevington County: Lancashire

Glitter Baby, yes James Forster was a Blacksmith. The witnesses are Jospeh Forster and Jane Wilding x

Hi Dea

Oh yeah sorry I have the birth cert it says Ashby, I presumed someone had transcribed wrong. The one I ordered was Index 8c Page 38. Do you think that is another record?

So, if you have the birth cert for the details posted above - the mother's maiden name is ASHTON, yet you have said 'ASHBY' ??? - Which one is correct?

Dea x

Margee, that's exactly what I thought, maybe the Hill family took her in if she was orphaned, do you think it would be worth searching death records for Sarah Forster?

Does it give any occupation of James Forster on marriage cert ?

Are the witnessess related ?

Hill family from 1871

1871 England Census
about Alice Hill Name: Alice Hill
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Hill
Mother's name: Ellen Hill
Gender: Female
Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Wigan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household schedule number: 98
Piece: 3888
Folio: 31
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
William Hill 50
Ellen Hill 50
Margaret Hill 20
Elizabeth Hill 18
Peter Hill 12
Alice Hill 8


and 1861

William Hill 40
Ellen Hill 40
Mary A Hill 18
Samuel Hill 15
Margret Hill 10
Elizabeth Hill 5
Peter Hill 2


so no help with finding Sarah

Andy

Safc thank you , yes I have that birth certificate

????

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1869
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
FORSTER Elizabeth Wigan Wigan & Leigh ASHTON WIG/89/324