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Hello Debi,

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Regards. Cx.

Hello Susan.l too have those hornbys in my tree.l also know someone else who has researched the same line.Richard Hornby born 1846 is the brothEr of my John Hornby born 1808. :-)

Thank you for your help. as you say its a bit frustrating at times.

this could be james the son in 1911
he has named his son jeremiah
HORNBY, James Head Married M 38 1873 Coal Miner - Hewer Lancashire Wigan VIEW
HORNBY, Jane Wife Married
15 years F 35 1876 VIEW
HORNBY, Jeremiah Son M 12 1899 VIEW
HORNBY, Margarite Daughter F 10 1901 VIEW
HORNBY, James Son M 7 1904 VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23062 Reference:
RG14PN23062 RG78PN1347 RD458 SD5 ED6 SN190

Registration District:
Wigan Sub District:
Pemberton Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Pemberton

Address:
39 Sargison St Pemberton County:
Lancashire

possible his marraige
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: HORNBY, James
Registration District: Help Wigan
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 8C
Page No: Help 93
MarriageFinder™: James Hornby married one of the following people Help


DERBYSHIRE, Jane view record

his marraige certificate will give his fathers name and occupation
the names of witnesses can also help

chin up
just takes a bit of patience and frustration

regards
maddie

Please keep all enquiries for same family on the one post. People get very upset about duplicating research.

You are quite correct - you need to purchase some certificates to be sure you have the right people

Pretty sure it's the right Sarah though, as she has both names listed

Sarah Jane Bradshaw Hornby - 23 Tailoress Spinster of 9 Arthur Street, Goose Green, Pemberton

I am still trying to get my head around working on this site as i have not done a lot . I knew sarah was born before parents where married but in those days fathers name was not allowed to go on birth cert unless they where wed so Richard still could be father.. Thomas Sharrock ws Sarahs Husband. How do you know ifyou have the right people on lanc bmd you cannot look at the cert. unless you pay to. Should i open a new post asking for anyone descended from the Hornbys as i say only used this once before today . dont know what im doing

Use freebmd to search for marriages.

This could be Sarah's brother


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Marriages Dec 1917 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hornby Jeremiah - Wallwork Ormskirk 8b 1279
Wallwork Frances - Hornby Ormskirk 8b 1279

You knew about her birth but referred to her as Hornby which she wasn't and born 1867 which she wasn't ????

You opening post mentions nothing about looking for descendants.


There is this birth which looks positive as the father Thomas was a shoe/ bootmaker

Baptisms: 5 Sep 1890 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Ethel Sharrock - Child of Thomas Sharrock & Sarah Jane
Abode: Goose Green Pemberton
Occupation: Bootmaker
Baptised by: W. Walker

Hi Maddie, the 1911 cencus does not give all information. and i need information from between 1911 and now dont know where to get it from

Hi Maddie, I am looking for where Sarah's bros and sisters got to I have a letter from the ministry to Richard Hornby Stanley street wigan 1916 about my grandfathers injuries in the war. that could be sarah's brother or father i dont know but would like to be in touch with the hornby part of the family. as i have said i dont know anything about them.

susan
if the above census are correct you should be able to trace them using the census and free bmd for marraiges etc
is there anything in particular you are looking for
regards

maddie

:-)thank you for the information, I knew Sarah was born 2 years before mothers marriage. i am looking for her siblings descendants i know nothing about any of them. are you related.

Marriage: 21 May 1890 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Sharrock - 21 Clogger Bachelor of 747 Ormskirk Rd, Pemberton
Sarah Jane Bradshaw Hornby - 23 Tailoress Spinster of 9 Arthur Street, Goose Green, Pemberton
Groom's Father: Joseph Sharrock, Bricklayer
Bride's Father: Richard Hornby, Labourer
Witness: John Thomas Johnson; Elizabeth Sharrock
Married by Banns by: J. Llewellyn


However, may not have actually been Richard's daughter.

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1866

BRADSHAW Sarah Jane - Wigan Wigan & Leigh - Mother BRADSHAW


Her birth certificate ...


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Births Sep 1866
BRADSHAW Sarah J - Wigan 8c 36

1881
HORNBY, Richard Head Married M 30 1851 Iron Foundry Labourer
Burscough
Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, Frances Wife Married F 35 1846 Charwoman
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, Sarah J Daughter Single F 14 1867 Tailoress
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, Emily F Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, William Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, James Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, Richard Son Single M 4 1877
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, Jeremiah Son Single M 1 1880
Wigan
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3779 Folio:
10 Page:
14

Registration District:
Wigan Sub District:
Pemberton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Pemberton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Stephens Foundary House, Pemberton County:
Lancashire

1871
HORNBY, Richard Head M 25 1846 Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, Francess Wife F 25 1846 Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, Sarah J Daughter F 4 1867 Lancashire VIEW
HORNBY, Eliza F Daughter F 2 1869 Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
3887 Folio:
143 Page:
34

Registration District:
Wigan Sub District:
Wigan Enumeration District:
27 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Wigan Municipal Borough:
Wigan Address:
Chapel Lane (Queen's Head), Wigan County:
Lancashire

Looks like this is her - actually born 1866

Baptisms: 23 Sep 1866 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Sarah Jane Bradshaw - Child of Frances Bradshaw
Abode: 120 Frog Lane
Baptised by: George T O Bridgeman Rector

Still looking for Sarah.

This would be her parents marriage
If Sarah was born 1867 it was before her parents married


Banns: St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Richard Hornby - of Lathom
Frances Bradshaw - of Lathom
Banns Read: 15 Aug 1869, 2nd: 22 Aug 1869, 3rd: 29 Aug 1869
Register: Banns 1866 - 1897, Page 32, Entry 66
Source: LDS Film 1849649


Marriage: 4 Sep 1869 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Richard Hornby - (X), full Labourer Bachelor of Lathom
Frances Bradshaw - full Spinster of Lathom
Groom's Father: James Hornby, Labourer
Bride's Father: William Bradshaw, deceased
Witness: Jane Gregory; Thomas Jones
Married by Banns by: J Bush - Vicar

Anyone know Sarah Jane Hornby b 1867 to Richard hornby b 1846 in burscough lancashire and Frances Bradshaw b in wigan.she ismy geat grandmother she married Thomas Sharrock