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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1883
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GARNER Alice BURSLEM Edward Manchester, Chorlton-on-Medlock, St. Saviour Manchester 45/2/322

this link should take you to the marriage cert image which shows Alice's father as John Garner (deceased) and Alice as age 31

https://familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/pal%3A/MM9.1.i/dgs%3A004508467.004508467_00163

the marriage you can find on the link which Flick gave you for lancashirebmd

Also there is an Alice Garner born c1855 who may of married an Edward Burslem, who id like to find a marriage record from?

for real confirmation of George Massey Garner's parentage you need to buy his birth certificate

however if you have it correct this may give you another clue for going back

parents of nephew John Hewitt??

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HEWITT William H GARNER Mary A Prestwich Registrar Attended Manchester PRE_RM/2/8

birth date matches that of 1871 census

would guess that the Worcester is incorrect (easy mistranscription from poor handwriting)

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Births Jun 1872 -
HOLT Elizabeth Margaret - Chorlton 8c 764

Wow that seems to fit in, do you think it likely there to be a mistake made with the birthdate and birthplace (no such place as a newton heath worcester?)

from lan-opc.org.uk

Marriage: 4 Mar 1893 Salem Methodist New Connexion, Cheetham, Lancashire, England
George Massey Garner - Provision Salesman of 12 Dean Lane Moston
Bessie Margaret Holt - of Clayton Bridge Newton
Married by: J. Mellor
Notes: [Married at 2.30. Paid 5s]
Source: LDS Film 2357169

Infact Smith is fairly likely as some of the children also have the middle name smith!

found this on pilot family search - match to John Smith Garner of 1871??

Marriage Date: 08 Dec 1928
Marriage Place: Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada
Groom's Name: John Smith Garner
Groom's Age: 66
Groom's Birth Date: 1862
Groom's Birthplace: Newton Heath Worcester, England
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed
Groom's Residence:
Groom's Father's Name: George Garner
Groom's Mother's Name: Hannah Smith
Bride's Name: Kate Louise Thompson
Bride's Age: 44
Bride's Birth Date: 1884
Bride's Birthplace: Byfleet Surrey, England
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed
Bride's Residence:
Bride's Father's Name: George Edward Thorpe
Bride's Mother's Name: Harriet Watmore
Film Number: 2074552
Digital Folder Number: 4400880
Image Number: 1322
BC Archives Film Number: B13756
Registration Number: 1424
Banns or License: License
Collection: British Columbia Marriage Registrations, 1859-1932

No im not 100% that the surname was massey, it was a given middlename for one of the children and heard through the family that this was her maiden name, so likely to be incorrect.

Thanks

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George GARNER Head M Male 53 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Silk Warper
Hannah GARNER Wife M Female 50 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England
Alice GARNER Daur U Female 24 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver
Joseph GARNER Son Male 21 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England
John GARNER Son Male 18 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Bread Baker
Samuel GARNER Son Male 16 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Grocers Assistant
Sarah Jane GARNER Daur Female 14 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver
George Wm. GARNER Son Male 12 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Scholar
Annie GARNER Daur Female 2 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England
John HEWITT Nephew Male 5 Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Scholar

Source Information:
Dwelling 5 Devonshire St
Census Place Newton, Lancashire, England

George Garner
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth: 1828 —Newton Heath, Lancashire, England
residence: 1881 —Newton, Lancashire, England
census: 1881 —Newton, Lancashire, England
spouse: Hannah Garner
children: Alice Garner, Joseph Garner...

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: George Garner
age: 53
gender: Male
birth year: 1828
birthplace: Newton Heath, Lancashire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Silk Warper
address: 5 Devonshire St
census place: Newton, Lancashire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341957
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 4010 / 49
page number: 9

Do you have confirmation that Hannah's maiden name was Massey please

I can't find the marriage

with the Smith's on that 1871 census I wondered if it could be this one

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GARNER George SMITH Hannah Manchester, St. Mary Manchester 9/6/339

Wow Thankyou so much for your replies! All are the correct people, as I think they all came from Newton Heath, any idea how id go about going even further back into George/Hannah's parents?


Thanks again!!!! :)

1871
Name: George Garner
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Garnes
Mother's name: Hannah Garnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton; Heath, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 4057
Folio: 42
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
George Garnes 43
Hannah Garnes 40
Mary A Garner 18
William H Garner 16
Alice Garner 14
Joseph Garner 11
John Smith Garner 8
Samuel Garner 6
Sarah J Garner 4
George Garner 2
William Dixon 47
Catharine Gell 47
Betty Hillary 56

1861
Name: George Gurner
[George Garner]
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Gurner
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Heath, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Newton Heath
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Piece: 2966
Folio: 89
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
George Gurner 33
Hannah Gurner 30
Mary A Gurner 8
William H Gurner 6
Alice Gurner 4
Joseph Gurner 1
John Smith 62
Samuel Smith 18

For clarification...........

Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)
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Garner George Massey Prestwich 8d 389
Holt Bessie Margaret Prestwich 8d 389

Two sites you should have in your favourites.............

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

AND

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

You'll find them invaluable

Also........1881 census is FREE on...........

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

1891

Name: George M Garner
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Garner
Mother's name: Hannah Garner
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Hth, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3251
Folio: 120
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
George Garner 63
Hannah Garner 60
Joe Garner 31
George M Garner 22
Annie Garner 12

Welcome to the boards Garner

Have you tried the search trees to find any connections?

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Hi, im a new member looking for garners!
So far ive found a George Massey Garner (born 1868) who married Bessie Garner, who id like to find out more about, they lived in the Newton Heath area.

Also Id love to find out about George's parents, Hannah Massey and George Garner who lived on Church Street in manchester and worked as a silk worker.

Any info would be fantastic!!!!!