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My 2nd great aunts

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Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Jul 2011 13:24

I would be grateful if some one could help me sort out a muddle
Ellen Critchley born 1827 ashton on mersey Altringham
Alice Critchley her sister born 1818 same place

parents John crichley and Mary Clerk.

Ellen Critchley married John Renshaw in 1847
Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%) Scan available - click to view CRITCHLEY Ellen Altrincham 19 RENSHAW John Altrincham 19 1

Alice Critchley married John renshaw 1845
Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%)
CRITCHLEY Alice Altrincham 19 1 Scan
RENSHAW John Altrincham 19 1 Scan

1851 census for Ellen
RENSHAW, John Head Married M 29 1822 Ag Lab
Sale
Cheshire VIEW
RENSHAW, Ellen Wife Married F 25 1826
Sale
Cheshire VIEW
RENSHAW, Martha Daughter F 11 1840
Sale
Cheshire VIEW
RENSHAW, John Son M 5 1846
Sale
Cheshire VIEW
RENSHAW, James Son M 2 1849
Sale
Cheshire VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2162 Folio:
324 Page:
26

Registration District:
Altrincham Sub District:
Altrincham Enumeration District:
2C Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Sale Municipal Borough:
Address:
Broad Lane, Sale County:
Cheshire
I cannot find her in 1861, I think she may have died 1856 Altringham

I cannot find Alice in 1851 but have 1861
RENSHAW, John Head Married M 40 1821 Agricultural Labourer
Northam
Cheshire VIEW
RENSHAW, Alice Wife Married F 43 1818
Sale
County of Chester VIEW
RENSHAW, John Son M 44 1817 Agricultural Labourer
Sale
County of Chester VIEW
HATTON, James Stepson M 13 1848 Agricultural Labourer
Sale
County of Chester VIEW
RENSHAW, James Stepson M 13 1848 Agricultural Labourer
Sale
County of Chester VIEW
RENSHAW, James Stepson M 7 1854 Agricultural Labourer
Sale
County OF VIEW
CROCHER, Thomas Grandson M 1 1860
Chester Sale VIEW (SOULD READ CRITCHLEY)
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
2591 Folio:
84 Page:
8

Registration District:
Altrincham Sub District:
2 Altrincham Enumeration District:
18 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Anns

Civil Parish:
Sale Municipal Borough:
Address:
Hart Lane, Sale County:
Cheshire

cannot find Alice thereafter
She may have died 1866 Altrinham

I am confused by the names and birth dates of the children
Did the same John marry both although the marraige dates would be the wrong way around
Any suggestions
thank you
Maddie

Astra

Astra Report 20 Jul 2011 13:43

On the 1861 on Ancestry for John and Alice the Stepson James is Walton and not Hatton. On the original it could be either but looks more like Walton

Looking at the 1851 i think this is him so he doesn't belong to your Alice.

James Walton
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Grandson
Mother's name: Alice Walton
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Sale, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Sale
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton upon Mersey
County/Island: Cheshire
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Shaw 81
Alice Walton 30
Edward Walton 12
James Walton 2
Samuel Shaw 21

Astra

Astra Report 20 Jul 2011 13:46

This is the marriage. So it isn't your John and Alice.

Marriages Sep 1859 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Renshaw John Altrincham 8a 221
Walton Alice Altrincham 8a 221

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Jul 2011 13:52

thanks Astra
back to the drawing board

only thing that puzzles me is that their grandson hTomas Critchley is living with them
maddie

Alemap

Alemap Report 20 Jul 2011 14:31

Perhaps this will help.
Looks like Alice Walton is his 3rd marriage.

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1845
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
RENSHAW John CRITCHLEY Alice Ashton-upon-Mersey, St Martin Trafford CE1/1/31

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1847
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
RENSHAW Alice 25 Altrincham Trafford ALT/5/78

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1847
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
RENSHAW John CRITCHLEY Ellen Ashton-upon-Mersey, St Martin Trafford CE1/1/39

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
RENSHAW Ellen 30 Altrincham Trafford ALT/10/93

Edit: Forgot to put the second Alice's marriage.
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1856 to 1860
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
RENSHAW * John SHAW Alice Ashton-upon-Mersey, St Martin Trafford CE1/1/140
RENSHAW * John WALTON Alice Ashton-upon-Mersey, St Martin Trafford CE1/1/140


All from Cheshirebmd

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Jul 2011 15:42

thanks Pam
you learn something new every day

regards
Maddie