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Hertfordshire dead-end!

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Tracy

Tracy Report 20 Jul 2011 13:43

Afternoon,
I've come to a dead-end in my tree :-\. I'm looking for further details (if there are any) about my 4X great grandparents: James Webb c1796 born Watford, Hertfordshire and Hannah (nee Hunt) c1796 born Chandler's Cross, Hertfordshire.
In the 1841 census he is listed as an Agricultural labourer and they are both living in Watford (Hamlet of Cashio) with their 7 children (William c1826, Mary c1828, Hannah c1830, Timothy c1833, James c1835, Stephen c1837 and George 1840).
I can't find them in the 1851 census.
In the 1861 Census they are both living in Watford and he is listed as a woodman.

I've exhausted all my usual sources of baptism and marriage info, so if there is anyone who could help me, I would be extremely grateful :-)

Many thanks,
Tracy

Researching:
Hertfordshire, Gloucestershire, Yorkshire, Pembrokeshire, Radnorshire, Dunkeld, Dublin

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Jul 2011 13:53

For Reference...


1841 England Census
about Hannah Webb
Name: Hannah Webb
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Watford
Hundred: Cashio
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Watford
Household Members:
Name Age
James Webb 40
Hannah Webb 40
William Webb 15
Mary Webb 13
Hannah Webb 11
Timothy Webb 8
James Webb 6
Stephen Webb 4
George Webb 8 MO

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Jul 2011 13:57

Son Timothy in 1851, Age has been transcribed as 10 but original is 19.

1851 England Census
about Timothy Webb Name: Timothy Webb
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
[1832]
Relation: Lodger
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Watford, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Abbots Langley
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Bushey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 1714
Folio: 617
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Susanah Woodwards 57
Ann Woodwards 25
Maria Woodwards 16
Henry Woodwards 4
George Gravestock 22
Timothy Webb 10



Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Jul 2011 14:00

I can spot some of the children in 1851...........but not the parents.

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Tracy

Tracy Report 20 Jul 2011 14:06

Margee: that's a good lead. I'll research those Woodwards and see if it takes me anywhere. Thanks! :-)

Researching:
Hertfordshire, Gloucestershire, Yorkshire, Pembrokeshire, Radnorshire, Dunkeld, Dublin

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Jul 2011 14:08

This might be 1851 for parents. Image is poor, second opions welcome. James is a Woodman

1851 England Census
about Hannah Stell Name: Hannah Stell
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Stell
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Watford, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Watford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Bushey
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 1714
Folio: 323
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
James Stell 57
Hannah Stell 57
James Stell 16


Andy

Tracy

Tracy Report 20 Jul 2011 14:08

PricklyHolly: Which children? I can then research their co-habitants :-)

Researching:
Hertfordshire, Gloucestershire, Yorkshire, Pembrokeshire, Radnorshire, Dunkeld, Dublin

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Jul 2011 14:16

This looks like Stephen

1851 England Census
about Stephen Webb Name: Stephen Webb
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Wood Noth Natford

Civil parish: Watford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Bushey
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 1714
Folio: 321
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Thurlow 32
Susan Thurlow 28
Willm C Thurlow 7
Mary Ann Thurlow 3
Jas Pope 14
Stephen Webb 14


Andy

Tracy

Tracy Report 20 Jul 2011 14:25

Andrew: Bingo! I've just spotted the 1851 census record on ancestry and I think you're right, it looks like it could be Webb! Well spotted, thanks :-)

Researching:
Hertfordshire, Gloucestershire, Yorkshire, Pembrokeshire, Radnorshire, Dunkeld, Dublin

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Jul 2011 14:34

It is a poor image.........but yes, it is possibly Webb.

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Jul 2011 14:48

Yes, I agree it's Webb. That enumerator has a curious way of making his W's. Look at the W on wife and woodman.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Jul 2011 14:53

Thanks for confirmation. I'll submit a correction.


Edit. Who beat me to it?

GenesCS?

Andy

Tracy

Tracy Report 20 Jul 2011 15:32

Guilty - hope my mother-in-law doesn't mind me using her account to submit corrections!

Thanks for all your help guys. If you find any parish records relating to James or Hannah, please let me know :-)

Tracy

Researching:
Hertfordshire, Gloucestershire, Yorkshire, Pembrokeshire, Radnorshire, Dunkeld, Dublin

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Jul 2011 15:41

This looks like their children:

WEBB, William Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 13 Feb 1825 Recorded in: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England
Father: James WEBB
Mother: Hannah
Source: FHL Film 1040656 Dates: 1812 - 1831

WEBB, Mary Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 21 Oct 1827 Recorded in: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England
Father: James WEBB
Mother: Hannah
Source: FHL Film 1040656 Dates: 1812 - 1831

WEBB, Hannah Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 21 Mar 1830 Recorded in: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England
Father: James WEBB
Mother: Hannah
Source: FHL Film 1040656 Dates: 1812 - 1831

WEBB, Timothy Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 Mar 1833 Recorded in: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England
Father: James WEBB
Mother: Hannah
Source: FHL Film 1040657 Dates: 1832 - 1886

WEBB, James Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 12 Apr 1835 Recorded in: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England
Father: James WEBB
Mother: Anna
Source: FHL Film 1040657 Dates: 1832 - 1886

WEBB, Stephen Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 15 Oct 1837 Recorded in: Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England
Father: James WEBB
Mother: Hannah
Source: FHL Film 1040657 Dates: 1832 - 1886

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)