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--- we are having a Family " get together in September in Liverpool. A lot of second cousins that I don't know will be there ( I hope ) It would be SOOOO kind if there is anyone out there who could help with a Thomas Hughes from Haughton, West Felton Shropshire. We think he was born in 1820 and we know he married Elisabeth Payne in Haughton in 1844. They then moved to Liverpool and had 7 children.
But as you can all imagine I would love to know more about Thomas' parents
and family . Anyone out there who could be of any help ? I do realize that Hughes is a very common name !
Thanking you in advance says Sandra / Germany

Do you have the marriage cert for Thomas + Elisabeth please?

Dea x

Will this be him

Thomas Hughes
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Hughes
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Oswestry, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hughes 31
Elizabeth Hughes 32
Carolin Hannah Hughes 6
Thomas Page Hughes 4>>>>Thomas Payne Hughes
Amelia Ann Hughes 1

1861

Thomas Hughes
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Hughes
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hughes 41
Elizabeth Hughes 42
Caroline H Hughes 16
Thomas C Hughes 14
Amelia A Hughes 11
Sarah J Hughes 8
Elizabeth M Hughes 5
Richard W Hughes 2
Martin Schully 67
Mathew Stone 24


It'snot until the 1881 when he has re-married to Ellen that he gives his birth place as West Felton. It lies just a little south east of Oswestry.

Is Thomas' father not named on his marriage certificate ?

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Marriages Jun 1844 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Beckitt Sinah Oswestry 18 251
Hughes Sarah Oswestry 18 251
.........Hughes Thomas - Oswestry 18 251 <<<<<<
Jones Amelia Oswestry 18 251
.........PAYNE Elizabeth - Oswestry 18 251 <<<<<
ROGERS Edward Oswestry 18 251
THOMAS Charles Oswestry 18 251
THOMAS Edward Oswestry 18 251

If registered one of the childrens birth certs will give mmn

this could Amelia
Name: Amelia Ann Hughes
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1850
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 1144

another one
Name: Caroline Hannah Hughes
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1845
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 991

Possible for his parents. He called one of his sons Richard

residence: Shropshire, England
parents: Richard, Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Thomas Hughes
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Oct 1819
baptism/christening place: Oswestry, Shropshire, England
father's name: Richard
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: I03244-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1657582

Silly me!! I missed you already know mums maiden name :-(

Sorry folks I was waiting for replies somewher along the wrong lines !!!

maybe
record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Richard Hughes
bride's name: Ann Wadlen
marriage date: 16 May 1811
marriage place: Saint Leonard,Broseley,Shropshire,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01155-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 510657


or

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Richard Hughes
bride's name: Anne Davies
marriage date: 21 Apr 1812
marriage place: St. Mary'S, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
indexing project (batch) number: I07261-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1701332

E-mail received from Sandra confirming father's name as Richard !

So, you are on the right track Shirley !!!

Dea Xxx

Might just be coincidence, but thought worth posting this 1841 as there is a Payne on it, too:

ROGERS, Ann F 55 1786 Shropshire
HUGHES, Thomas M 20 1821 Shropshire < Labourer
HUGHES, Ann F 15 1826 Shropshire
PAYNE, William M 15 1826 Shropshire < Bookmaker

Registration District: Oswestry
Sub District: Oswestry
Civil Parish: Oswestry
Municipal Borough: Oswestry

Address: Brick Kilns Coppice Kenwick, Oswestry County: Shropshire

this looks like probably Elizabeth in 1841, there are a lot fewer Elizabeth Paynes than there are Thomas Hughes :-)


Name: Elizabeth Payne
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Oswestry
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Oswestry

Lucy Wilson 25
Elizabeth Payne 20
Elizabeth Anderson 25


she is a servant in the household of William Roberts solicitor

there is a Susannah Hughes servant in the previous household ... Hughes everywhere I think

:-)


there is a Thomas Hughes nearby ( district 19, district 18 ) living with a John Hughs 80 and Sarah Hughes 55 but he is a grocer ...

PM RECEIVED ....

Hi there, didn't know Thomas Hughes married again. Good going.
That is definitely our Thomas, whose father was Richard Hughes as stated on the marriage certificate Hghes / Payne May 1844 . But that's as far as we've got Thanks for your help says Sandra / Germany

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Not sure I understand this... why do you think Thomas married twice ?

Second post in at 16:20 I posted that in 1881 Thomas has re-married to Ellen.
I do wish people would give all of the information in the fist post. If the OP knew his Father was called Richard why not post that.

Astra
x

Sandra please please answer in the thread, that way everyone can see what you say and we do not have to go back and forth to our messages :-)

and as Astra says always post _all_ of the information you have ... did you check out the post 'please read before posting' at the top of this board? it has very useful guidance

thank you for your message, yes I do imagine it has been easier to trace Payne !