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Hi all, I'm after some help, I'm trying to trace thw WITHAM side of my family and have got back as far as JOSEPH HENRY WITHAM (1875) I think he came from Clay Cross Derbyshire, he married Florence Susan Riddle in 1906 in Alverstoke Hampshire and on the 1901 census he was staying with his Grandparents in Alverstoke. But that is as far as I've got. Any info would be great.
Thank you
Sean

Birth for ref

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
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Witham Joseph Henry Mansfield 7b 85


Andy

Here he is in 1911. you didnt mention he was a sailor..


Person: WITHAM, Joseph Henry
Institution: Swiftsure, SHIP: SWIFTSURE, MEDITERRANEAN, GRAND HARBOUR, MALTA
Military details: Ship's Corporal 1st Class

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WITHAM, Joseph Henry Married ? 33 1878 Clay Cross Derby VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
34973 Reference:
RG14PN34973 RD640 SD4 ED27 SN9999

Registration District:
Sub District:
Enumeration District:
27 Parish:


Address:
County:
Royal Navy at Sea and in ports abroad



george

1911 census

Personal Information
Name Joseph Henry Witham
Condition Married
Gender
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Clay Cross Derby
Military Rank Ship's Corporal 1st Class
Enumerator Information
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN34973 RD640 SD4 ED27 SN9999
Administrative County Royal Navy At Sea and In Ports Abroad
Registration District Royal Navy At Sea
Enumeration District 27

Name Joseph Henry Witham
Year of Marriage 1906
Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Alverstoke
Registration County Hampshire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 2B
Volume Page 1247



Name Florence Susan Riddle
Year of Marriage 1906
Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Alverstoke
Registration County Hampshire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 2B
Volume Page 1247

For ref

1901 census

WHITE, John Henry Head Married M 67 1834 Gardener
Gosport VIEW
WHITE, Emily Wife Married F 73 1828
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
WITHAM, Joseph H Grand Son Single M 26 1875 Sailor
Clay Cross
Derbyshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1012 Folio:
58 Page:
1

Registration District:
Alverstoke Sub District:
Alverstoke Enumeration District:
22 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity Gosport

Civil Parish:
Alverstoke Municipal Borough:
Address:
5, Chapel Street, Alverstoke, Gosport County:
Hampshire

George

Name Florence Susan Riddle
Year of Registration 1884
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Medway
Registration County Kent
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 2A
Volume Page 546

Hi thanks for the sharp replies, but I know this much already, its his parents and any siblings that I'm after.
thanks Andy for the birth record as I could not find one.
cheers
Sean

1891 census

Address Mill Cottage, New Road
Parish St Margaret
District Medway, Rochester
Administrative County Kent

Householder 1
Name Joseph Riddle
Age 42
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Shoe Maker
Birth Place Northampton
Birth County

Householder 2
Name Emma Riddle
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1854
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation Shoe Binder
Birth Place Blandford
Birth County

Householder 3
Name William Riddle
Age 17
Estimated Year of Birth 1874
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Barge Mans Mate
Birth Place Gosport
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 4
Name Louisa Riddle
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Rochester
Birth County Kent

Householder 5
Name Joseph Riddle
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1882
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Rochester
Birth County Kent

Householder 6
Name Florence Riddle
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Rochester
Birth County Kent

granparents in 1891

1891 census
Address 2, Little Beach Street
Parish Alverstoke
District Alverstoke, Alverstoke
Administrative County Hampshire

Householder 1
Name Henry White
Age 56
Estimated Year of Birth 1835
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Gardener
Birth Place Gosport
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 2
Name Emily White
Age 63
Estimated Year of Birth 1828
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Portsea
Birth County Hampshire

1881 census

Address 2, Whitehall Court
Parish Alverstoke
District Alverstoke, Alverstoke
Administrative County Hampshire

Householder 1
Name Henry White
Age 48
Estimated Year of Birth 1833
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Gardener
Birth Place Gosport
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 2
Name Emily White
Age 50
Estimated Year of Birth 1831
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Gosport
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 3
Name Rosa White
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Gosport
Birth County Hampshire

Sean

see what you mean, i cant see him on any census before 1901, looks like you will have to buy the birth certificate that Andy found.


George

Posting this incase it fits in....?

Marriages Sep 1876

HARRISON Martha Elizabeth ..Alverstoke 2b 832
Trezise Theodore ..Alverstoke 2b 832
White Eleanor Kate ..Alverstoke 2b 832 <<<<<<<<
WITHAM Theophilus ..Alverstoke 2b 832 <<<<<<<


I found Theodore and Martha together in 1881, so it would seem that Theophilus married Eleanor, but only so far found a soldier Theophilus in that area in 1881, declaring he is single???


Gwyn

1871 for granparents elenor kate seems to fit

1871 census
Address Chapel Street
Parish Alverstoke
District Alverstoke, Alverstoke
Administrative County Hampshire

Householder 1
Name Henry White
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 2
Name Emily White
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 3
Name Eleanor White
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1857
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 4
Name Alice White
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 5
Name Rosa White
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Maybe a remarriage...?

Marriages Sep 1892

COLLINS Frederick Benjamin ...Southampton 2c 85 <<<<<<
Day George James ... Southampton 2c 85
SANDIFORD Mary Dingle ..Southampton 2c 85
WITHAM Eleanor Kate ..Southampton 2c 85<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<

EDIT
Found Mary with George in 1901

Gwyn

There is a tree on Ancestry that has him listed, which might be your tree of course, however there are no sources of info listed nor any mention of parents, but list his wife Florence Susan Riddle

There is mention of 2 children, but rather sad they both died one tragically.


Florence Emily Witham born 1909 died 1910
Death GOSPORT Hampshire England accidentally suffocated.inquest held 6th july father ships corporal rn

Bertram Witham born 1913 died1913
1913 Birth GOSPORT Hampshire England 1citations
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 1913 MarDeath d.o.b.j/


George

1881 census

Name Theophilis Witham
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1854
Relationship to Head of Household Private
Occupation Soldier
Address 73, Perthsh Re Great Of Ft Clarance Bks Ports
District Portsea Island, Portsmouth Town
Parish Portsmouth
Administrative County Hampshire
Birth Place Alfredon
Birth County Derbyshire

1861 census

Address Hopkin Lane
Parish Hucknall Under Huthwaite
District Mansfield, Sutton-In-Ashfield
Administrative County Nottinghamshire

Householder 1
Name Joseph Sheppard
Age 49
Estimated Year of Birth 1812
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Cotton Framework Knitter
Birth Place Hucknall Under Huthwaite
Birth County Nottinghamshire

Householder 2
Name Sarah Witham
Age 39
Estimated Year of Birth 1822
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Seamer Of Stockings
Birth Place Newton...
Birth County Derbyshire

Householder 3
Name Theophilus Witham
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Son Of Lodger
Occupation Cotton Winder
Birth Place Newton...
Birth County Derbyshire

Householder 4
Name William Sheppard
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household Brother
Occupation Coal Carrier
Birth Place Hucknall Under Huthwaite
Birth County Nottinghamshire