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1851 Census entry James Matthias born 1843

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Sheila Mary

Sheila Mary Report 24 Jul 2011 14:10

Ah - right. So it's the records that could be missing. Thank you very much for the info. At least it will stop me spending ages trying to track down the entries. I assume my only course of action now is to see whether any rent books are available for the time period and locality.

thanks a lot Vera.

Vera

Vera Report 24 Jul 2011 13:50

Hi Sheila,

Unfortunately....

The 1851 census contains transcriptions and reconstructed images for around 180,000 individuals – available online for the first time – which have been retrieved from severely damaged pages.

The records for the Manchester, Chorlton, Salford, Oldham and Ashton-Under-Lyne registration districts were water damaged many years ago due to flooding.
As a result many were too fragile to be filmed or no writing was visible, but a 14 year project by the Manchester and Lancashire Family History Society (MLFHS) has recovered information from around 82 per cent of the damaged records.

The reconstructed images follow the same layout as the originals, and where relevant include details of neighbouring households.




Regards Vera

LD

LD Report 24 Jul 2011 13:49

For reference, the 1871


Name: James Mathias
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Mathias
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester
Civil parish: Trefeirig
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Aberystwith
Sub-registration district: Rheidol
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 5566
Folio: 123
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
James Mathias 28
Jane Mathias 27
James Mathias 1

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Sheila Mary

Sheila Mary Report 24 Jul 2011 13:46

yep - the 1861 entry is spot on. It's just the 1851 one that is so frustrating.

thanks for your help.

Vera

Vera Report 24 Jul 2011 13:41

Just for reference 1861...


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JAMES, James Head Married M 70 1791 Labourer
Llanbadarn Fawr
Cardiganshire VIEW
JAMES, Anne Wife Married F 66 1795
Llanbadarn Fawr
Cardiganshire VIEW
JAMES, William Son Unmarried M 22 1839 Miner
Llanbadarn Fawr
Cardiganshire VIEW
MATHIAS, James Grandson Unmarried M 18 1843 Miner
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
JAMES, Anne Granddaughter F 8 1853
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
4200 Folio:
54 Page:
2

Registration District:
Aberystwyth Sub District:
4 Rheidol Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Bangor

Civil Parish:
Trefeirig Municipal Borough:
Address:
Garth, Trefeirig County:
Cardiganshire

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 24 Jul 2011 13:40

Hi,
Have been looking so far no luck.

Regards Vera

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Sheila Mary

Sheila Mary Report 24 Jul 2011 13:22

Can anybody help me locate the 1851 entry for James Matthias (sometimes spelt Mathias). He was born in Chorlton, Lancashire in Q1 1843 to Welsh parents James and Sarah Matthias. They may have died before the 1851 census and their son was living with his grandparents in Penrhyncoch, Cardiganshire by 1861.

Any help would be gratefully received.

thanks