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Gina
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9 Aug 2011 00:11 |
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I am looking for a marraige for John Bryant b.1859 Pancras. His father was Thomas Bryant, a blind maker / carpenter
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KathleenBell
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9 Aug 2011 00:19 |
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Have you found him in any census as a married man?
EDIT - this is not him as he is single and feeble mined in the 1901 census.
EDIT - I have deleted the marriage I found as it can't have been him as he's still single in 1911.
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BatMansDaughter
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9 Aug 2011 00:21 |
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1891 England Census about John Bryant Name: John Bryant Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Bryant Mother's name: Jemima Bryant Gender: Male Where born: St Pancras, London, England Civil parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin Town: Kentish Town County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Kentish Town ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 137 Folio: 85 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Bryant 65 >> Blind maker Jemima Bryant 22 John Bryant 31 Mary A Bryant 17 Thomas Bryant 15 Alfred Bryant 10 Are you sure he married??
EDIT>>> sadly it sttes he was an Imbecile.
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SAMANTHA
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9 Aug 2011 00:22 |
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Hi,
I cannot find a marriage, he still is shown as living at home in the 1901 census at the age of 41, and it is noted next to him, that he is off feeble mind.
Transcription Record Name John Bryant Relation to Head of Family Son Age Last Birthday 41 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Condition as to Marriage Single Where Born London St Pancras Address 37 Oak Village Civil Parish St Pancras Rural District Town or Village or Hamlet Ecclesiastical Parish All Hallows Parliamentary Borough or Division North St Pancras County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District St Pancras Administrative County London Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District Ward 1 Language Infirmity Feeble Mind
I hope this helps
Sam
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KathleenBell
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9 Aug 2011 00:27 |
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Still single in the 1911 census:-
BRYANT, Thomas Heads Widower M 76 1835 Carpenter And Joiner Chenies Bucks BRYANT, John Son Single M 52 1859 Nil London N W
Address: 32 Hargrave Road Holloway
Reference: RG14PN783 RG78PN27 RD10 SD1 ED8 SN96
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Gina
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9 Aug 2011 00:27 |
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Thanks for looking, everything points to him not marrying. Will move on to the next one
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Gina
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9 Aug 2011 02:10 |
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Looking for marraige for James Bryant b.1861 , father Thomas Bryant, a blind maker / carpenter. I have him on the 1881 census living at home but lose him after this.
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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9 Aug 2011 03:24 |
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marriage ?
Marriages Dec 1887 >>>>Bryant James Pancras 1b 23 FOSBROOK Thomas Charles Pancras 1b 23 Griffith Amelia Eliza Pancras 1b 23 >>>>WOOD Susan Elizabeth Pancras 1b 23
Name: James Bryant Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Spouse Name: Susan Elizabeth Wood Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 30 Oct 1887 Parish: St Thomas, Agar Town County: Surrey Father Name: Thomas Bryant ---Joiner Spouses father---John Wood --dec --carman
address for both --9 Priory Street
witnesses--Thomas Den* ? --Rose Maria Wood (not sure it is Rose but looks like Rose)
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1891 census
1891 England Census 1891 England Census Name: James Bryant Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susan E Bryant Gender: Male Where born: St Pancras, London, England Civil parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: London Country: England Street Address Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
Household Members: Name Age James Bryant 29 Susan E Bryant 26 Emily R Bryant 7 ( looks like age 1 on image)
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 134; Folio 127; Page 16; GSU roll: 6095244.
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Birth Jun 1889 Bryant Emily Rose Pancras 1b 174
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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9 Aug 2011 03:36 |
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1901 census--all living in one house
1901 England Census 1901 England Census Name: James Bryant Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susan Bryant [Jemina Bryant] Gender: Male Where born: St Pancras, London, England Civil parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:37 Oak Village
Registration district: St Pancras Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
Household Members: Name Age James Bryant 39 --head Susan Bryant 36 --wife Emily R Bryant 11 Arthur J Bryant 9 Elizabeth A Bryant 7 Walter A Bryant 3
Thomas Bryant 67 --head--blind maker house fit Jemina Bryant 64 --wife John Bryant 41 Sarah A Bryant 29 Thomas A Bryant 25 Alfred Bryant 20 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 155; Folio: 34; Page: 60.
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Gina
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9 Aug 2011 06:11 |
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many thanks barbara
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Gina
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9 Aug 2011 10:14 |
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looking for marraige for Jemima Bryant b.1863 Pancras. Her father was Thomas Bryant, a blind maker / carpenter. I have her on the 1881 at the age of 15, she is not at home after this
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SAMANTHA
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9 Aug 2011 10:23 |
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I've found one that could match date wise??
Transcription Record Name Jemima Bryant Year of Marriage 1886 Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun Registration District Madeley Registration County Shropshire Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912 Volume Number 6A Volume Page 1149
she married a
Henry PELLOWE or John WILLIAMS
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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9 Aug 2011 11:02 |
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Just for info the Bryant family in 1881 census
Household: 1881 census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Thomas BRYANT Head M Male 46 Chenies, Buckingham, England Carpenter Jemima BRYANT Wife M Female 43 St Pancras, Middlesex, England John BRYANT Son U Male 21 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Labourer James BRYANT Son U Male 19 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Carman Jemima BRYANT Dau U Female 17 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Alice M. BRYANT Dau U Female 15 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Fanny BRYANT Dau Female 11 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Sarah BRYANT Dau Female 9 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Mary A. BRYANT Dau Female 7 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Thomas BRYANT Son Male 5 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Alfred BRYANT Son Male 3 m St Pancras, Middlesex, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 6 Powlett Place Harwood St Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341048 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0219 / 23 Page Number 42
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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9 Aug 2011 11:23 |
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Maybe Jemima--the daughter--Death index ?? I think they have made a mistake in 1891 census as Jemima is age 22 and Thomas' wife !! (it does say 22 on image ) If this Jemima was his wife age should be around 52 (see BatMansDaughter post for 1891 census)
Deaths Sep 1884 Bryant Jemima age 20 Pancras 1b 106
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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9 Aug 2011 13:11 |
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Mary Ann Bryant-mariage ??
Marriages Sep 1896 >>>>>Bryant Mary Ann Pancras 1b 139 Hornett Martha Pancras 1b 139 >>>>>NEWMAN William Frank Pancras 1b 139 Wheatley Joseph Pancras 1b 139
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Name: Mary Ann Bryant Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Spouse Name: William Frank Newman Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 12 Sep 1896 Parish: St Martin, Kentish Town County: London Borough: Camden Father Name: Thomas Bryant --carpenter Spouse Father Name: George Newman ---cheesemonger ?
wittnesses--Thomas Bryant---Sarah Ann Bryant --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1911 census transcription details for: 21 Shirlock Road N W National Archive Reference: RG14PN760 RG78PN26 RD9 SD4 ED16 SN165 Reg. District: St Pancras Sub District: North St Pancras Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: 16 Address: 21 Shirlock Road N W County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born NEWMAN, William Frank Head Married M 38 1873 Railway Messenger London St Pancras
NEWMAN, Mary Ann Wife Married14 years F 37 1874 London St Pancras
NEWMAN, Dorothy Lilian Daughter F 13 1898 School London St Pancras 1 child born and still living in 1911
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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9 Aug 2011 14:33 |
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Fanny Bryant--Marriage ?
Marriages Mar 1888 >>>>ABLETT Alfred Pancras 1b 22 >>>>>BRYANT Fanny Pancras 1b 22 McCall Jane Pancras 1b 22 Yonwin William Pancras 1b 22
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Name: Fanny Bryant Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Spouse Name: Alfred Ablett -----Fruiterer Spouse Age: 35 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 26 Mar 1888 Parish: St Thomas, Agar Town County: Surrey Fathers name: Thomas Bryant-carpenter Spouse Father Name: Isaac Ablett ---Fruiterer
Witnesses Thomas Bryant and Jemima Bryant (x her mark)
address 25 Priory Street
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1891 census (as Abbett looks like Ablet on image)
1891 England Census 1891 England Census Name: Fanny Abbett Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Alfred Abbett Gender: Female Where born: St Pancras, London, England Civil parish: Ealing Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns Town: Ealing County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address 10, coldershaw ? Villas Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Brentford ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1029 Folio: 143 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Abbett 34 ---fruiterer Fanny Abbett 22 Alfred Abbett 4/12
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1029; Folio 143; Page 13; GSU roll: 6096139.
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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9 Aug 2011 14:49 |
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1901 census for Fanny
1901 England Census 1901 England Census Name: Fanny Ablett Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Alfred Ablett Gender: Female Where born: St Pancras, London, England Civil parish: Ealing Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Ealing County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Brentford ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 194 Piece: 1192 Folio: 58 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Ablett 50 Fanny Ablett 38 Alfred Ablett 11 David Ablett 9 Stephen Ablett 7 Dorothy Ablett 6 Beatrice Ablett 4 Marian Ablett 1
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1192; Folio: 58; Page: 28.
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Gina
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9 Aug 2011 14:56 |
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thank you very much barbara for your help
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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9 Aug 2011 15:18 |
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1911 census
1911 census transcription details for: 12 Coldershaw Villas West Ealing W National Archive Reference: RG14PN6905 RG78PN343B RD128 SD4 ED38 SN14 Reg. District: Brentford Sub District: Brentford Parish: Ealing Enum. District: 38 Address: 12 Coldershaw Villas West Ealing W County: Middlesex Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ABLETT, Alfred Head Married 23 years M 65 1846 Retired Fruit Salesman London St Pancras ABLETT, Fanny Wife Married F 43 1868 London St Pancras ABLETT, Alfred Son Single M 21 1890 Drapery Counting-House Clerk Middlesex Ealing ABLETT, David Son Single M 19 1892 Railway Clerk London Hampstead ABLETT, Stephen Leonard Son Single M 17 1894 Insurance Clerk Middlesex Ealing ABLETT, Dorothy Daughter Single F 15 1896 School Middlesex Ealing ABLETT, Beatrice May Daughter Single F 13 1898 School London Hampstead ABLETT, Montague Son Single M 10 1901 School Middlesex Ealing
7 children born but 1 had died before 1911
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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9 Aug 2011 15:24 |
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You are very welcome Gina
Bless her, It looks as if it was Marian who died before 1911,
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