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PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 12 Aug 2011 18:43

1881 census
Address
Parish Eling
District New Forest, Eling
Administrative County Hampshire

Householder 1
Name George Green
Age 54
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Basket Maker
Birth Place Basingstoke
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 2
Name Eliza Green
Age 52
Estimated Year of Birth 1829
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation Basket Maker
Birth Place Basingstoke
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 3
Name Unity Green
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Basket Maker
Birth Place Lymington
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 4
Name Mary Green
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Dorchester
Birth County Dorset

Householder 5
Name Priscilla Green
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1875
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Wimbourn
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 6
Name Edith Green
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hartley
Birth County Hampshire

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 12 Aug 2011 11:54

and another

1891 census
Address Caravan, Charminister Road
Parish Holdenhurst
District Christchurch, Christchurch
Administrative County Hampshire

Householder 1
Name Britania Barney
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1846
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Hawker
Birth Place Alton
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 2
Name Edith Barney
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1879
Relationship to Head of Household Niece
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Bristol, Moordown
Birth County

Householder 3
Name James Barney
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Relationship to Head of Household Nephew
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Holdenhurst
Birth County Hampshire

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 12 Aug 2011 11:52

another possible

1901 census
Address Travelling Caravan Near Rooksgrove
Civil Parish Warnford Entire
Rural District Droxford
Town or Village or Hamlet Warnford
Ecclesiastical Parish Warnford St John Entire
Parliamentary Borough or Division Eastern Or Petersfield
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Southampton

Householder 1
Name Daisey Barney
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 25
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Chichester
Language
Infirmity

Householder 2
Name George Barney
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 27
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Casual Farm Laborer
Employment Status
Where Born Chichester
Language
Infirmity

Householder 3
Name Noah George Barney
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 3
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Sheet Hants
Language
Infirmity

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 12 Aug 2011 11:41

another possible connection

1911 census
Household information
Address Fishers Pond Near Eastleigh
Parish Owslebury
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 4 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN6134 RG78PN284 RD103 SD3 ED5 SN203
Administrative County Hampshire
Registration District Winchester
Registration Sub District Twyford
Enumeration District 5

Householder 1
Name George Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 53
Estimated Year of Birth 1858
Occupation Gipsy Dealer Travellirs
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Bittern Southampton Hants

Householder 2
Name Britania Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / 27 Years
Total Children Born Alive 13
Children Still Living 11
Children Who Have Died 2
Gender F
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Occupation Assisting In The Business
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Alton Hants

Householder 3
Name Lavenia Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1890
Occupation Assisting In The Business
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Hambleton Hants

Householder 4
Name George Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1893
Occupation Assisting In The Business
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Winchester Hants

Householder 5
Name Alice Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1896
Occupation Assisting In The Business
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Sholing Hants

Householder 6
Name Britania Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1899
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Sholing Hants

Householder 7
Name Noah Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1901
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Alton Hants

Householder 8
Name Horace Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1903
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Winchester Hants

Householder 9
Name Job Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Alton Hants

Householder 10
Name Mary Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1908
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Sarisbury Hants Green

Householder 11
Name Harriett Barney
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 7 Month
Estimated Year of Birth 1911
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Petersfield Hants

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 12 Aug 2011 11:23

same family i gave you in 1871

1891 census
Address 33, School Road
Parish Hound
District South Stoneham, St Mary Extra
Administrative County Hampshire

Householder 1
Name Vanloc Barney
Age 58
Estimated Year of Birth 1833
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Licensed Hawker
Birth Place Farringdon
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 2
Name Alice Barney
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1845
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Andover
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 3
Name Job Barney
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1870
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Licensed Hawker
Birth Place Inkpen
Birth County Berkshire

Householder 4
Name Mary Barney
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1875
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Licensed Hawker
Birth Place Nursling
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 5
Name Harriett Barney
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Chilworth
Birth County Hampshire

unity

unity Report 12 Aug 2011 10:25

its very possible, bd ,as in most gypsie familys thay did not register there kids when thay were born it could be a few years later at the gatherings for hop picking as that was what thay did , thay did the same for weddings thay would wait till all met up and got married to gether so all the familys would not miss out .thay were very close people nothing like todays people .;;;;;;;;;i would like to thank all of you who have given me lots of work to do, sorting this lot out .there will be a lot of :-( is that right or :-0 wow yes and ;-) oh so thats what went on and :-Swhere do i go from here and finaly :-D yes kind regards uni

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Aug 2011 14:46

1891 England Census
about Rhoda Hughes Name: Rhoda Hughes
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Hughes
Gender: Female
Where born: Egham, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Overton Heath
Ecclesiastical parish: Overton
Town: Overton Heath
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Marlborough
Sub-registration district: Marlborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1598
Folio: 181
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Hughes 54
Rhoda Hughes 55
Janet Hughes 27
Henry Hughes 21
Phoebe Hughes 17
>>>>>>>Ellen Hughes 14
Edward Hughes 12
Britannia Hughes 9
Harriet Hughes 8
William Hughes 6
Priscilla Hughes 3
Hezekiah Hughes 3/12


Hawkers!!!!

From Britannia down they are Grandchildren to Rhoda.

Could your Ellen have been born a little later????

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Aug 2011 14:35

Just going on areas;

1891 England Census
about Emily Hughes Name: Emily Hughes
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Andover, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Milton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Milton
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Pewsey
Sub-registration district: Collingbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1613
Folio: 113
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Matilda Hughes 77 >> Hawker born Somerset
Matilda Hughes 28
Emily Hughes 14


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Aug 2011 14:31

Maybe???

1901 England Census
about Rhoda Hughes Name: Rhoda Hughes
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Alton, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Wells St Cuthbert Out
Ecclesiastical parish: Horsington
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wells
Sub-registration district: Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 148
Piece: 2315
Folio: 37
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Rhoda Hughes 66 >> occupation; Hawker
Emily Hughes 21 >> daughter born Pewsey Wiltshire
Edward Hughes 20 >>> son born Andover hants
Henry Chivers 14


Address; Caravans!!!

Below them is

Henry Hughes age 28 born Andover and his family.

Looks like your Hughes family!!!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Aug 2011 14:18

1891 England Census
about Britania Barney Name: Britania Barney
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Alton, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Holdenhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: Moordown
Town: Winton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 905
Folio: 167
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Britania Barney 45 Single
Edith Barney 12 >> Niece
James Barney 13 >> Nephew


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Aug 2011 14:10

looks like Rhoda was a TWIN:


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Births Jun 1839 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Barney Britannia Alton 7 15
Barney Rhoda Bella Alton 7 15

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 11 Aug 2011 14:01

possible connection

1871 census
Address Gipseys Tent
Parish St John
District Winchester, Winchester
Administrative County Hampshire

Householder 1
Name Vandalon Barney
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 2
Name Alice Barney
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 3
Name Lovinnia Barney
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 4
Name Emma Barney
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 5
Name Emiline* Barney
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 6
Name Britannia Barney
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 7
Name Ahalia Barney
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hampshire
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 8
Name Job Barney
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Berkshire
Birth County Berkshire

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Aug 2011 13:31

1851 England Census
about Rhoda Barney Name: Rhoda Barney
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Scholar
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: N

Civil parish: Farnham
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Wimborne
Sub-registration district: Cranborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 1854
Folio: 68
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Elizebeth Irland 48
Andy Ayers 13
>>>Britannia Barney 19
Mary Ann Milles 16
Lucy Bowers 11
Rhoda Barney 11
>>>Mary Barney 9
Austineline Barney 10
>>>Henry Barney 8
>>>Daugerfill Barney 7
Henry Milles 8
Henry Marton 8
Samuel Marton 6


Address is Gypsy Scholar Establishment



Someone else has corrected this;

1841 England Census
about Rodabella Barney Name: Rodabella Barney
[Rodabella Barney/Barnes]
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary Extra
Hundred: Mainsbridge (Upper Half)
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 402
Book: 11
Folio: 34
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Barney 45
Harriett Barney 45
Elizabeth Barney 16
James Barney 12
Andrew Barney 13
Ellen Barney 10
Mary Ann Barney 6
Bulannra Barney 4
Amelaine Barney 3
Rodabella Barney 3


PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 11 Aug 2011 13:14

Name Ellen Barney
Year of Marriage 1912
Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Fareham
Registration County Hampshire
Spouse's Surname Dockett
Volume Number 2B
Volume Page 1310

Spouse Match: Ellen BARNEY married John DOCKETT

Name John Dockett
Year of Marriage 1912
Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Fareham
Registration County Hampshire
Spouse's Surname Barney
Volume Number 2B
Volume Page 1310

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Aug 2011 13:02

I assume you meant James married 1916 not his daughter


Marriages Jun 1916 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Baker James E M - Hunt - Christchurch 2b 1582
Hunt Elizabeth M - Baker - Christchurch 2b 1582

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Aug 2011 12:57

1891 England Census
about Stephen Green Name: Stephen Green
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: New Forest, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Lyndhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: Emery Down Christ Church
Town: Gritenham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: New Forest
Sub-registration district: Lyndhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 910
Folio: 40
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Alford Hesicah 29
Mary A Hesicah 21
Hesicah Hesicah 1/12
Fred H Hesicah 1
Stephen Green 21
George Wills 18


Think the surname is ALFORD

Address states; Gypsy's in the woods.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Aug 2011 12:48

Hi Uni,

I see that George gives different places and years of birth;

1871 England Census
about George Green Name: George Green
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Green
Gender: Male
Where born: Oakfield, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Bere Regis
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Wareham
Sub-registration district: Bere Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 136
Piece: 1997
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
George Green 36 >>> Basket maker
Eliza Green 30 >> Sussex
George Green 13 >> Wiltshire
Unity Green 9 >> Dorset
Stephen Green 3 >> Hampshire


Dee x

unity

unity Report 11 Aug 2011 12:37

yes i do here are some thanks;(george green 1827 basingstoke wife eliza wilkins 1829 basingstoke)both gr gr granparents i no nothing .then james baker gr gr granparents nothing for him or wife but there daughter born 1887 died 8/4/1961 married 23/5/1916 christchurch)and rhoda bella barney gr gr granparents and husband john hughes no dates for them or where thay came from but there daughter ellen barney was born 1872 married 18/6/1912 she is my gr gran)last at the mo is( john duckett born 1875 married 18/6/1912 died 6/4/1961 he is ellen barneys huband, its johns father henry and his wife i need to find. any info on any of my family would be great and thanks for getting intouch kind regards uni :-D

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Aug 2011 15:27

HI UNITY
do you have any naes and dates or places
maddie

unity

unity Report 10 Aug 2011 14:15

can anyone help me with my great and gr gr grandparents as yes i am of gypsie blood born on the newforest,but when i was 2years old when we were put in a house so i have lost my heritage.i no next to nothing about my relatives as they all lost touch being put in different aireas and no we are nothing to do with people off the tv ,( my big fat gypsie wedding) ,our kind would have made them put some cloths on and we are not irish tinkers either which people seem to think we are, we are not most of us are good normal people with a past we would like to no about like all of you :-D so if anyone can help i am looking for the above and more but these will do for now kind regards uni :-)