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Since 2002 I keep returning to my Great Uncle Albert COOPER born April 1879 Denmark St. ST George in the East . Mother Elizabeth Cooper (Crowder) Father Joseph COOPER.

I have a death cert for Albert. Jan 1934 informant Elizabeth Cooper widow of deceased. my late Aunt remembered him and the details on cert are correct.

My problem is that I cannot find a correct marriage have an incorrect cert, also on census they have a son William E? again wrong certs obtained. They seem to be living his brother in law and wife. again cannot find them.

Any help greatly appreciated

1901 census( RG13 piece 313 Folio 83 page 44
Conroy Croft. Head
Helen . do Wife
Albert Cooper. Brother-in-law
Elizabeth do Wife
William E do Nephew.

What was father Joseph's occupation please ?

possible


Name William Edward Cooper
Year of Registration 1899
Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District St. George in The East
Registration County London
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 1C
Volume Page 380

Where does it give for birthplaces on 1901 ?

The only Conroy I can see around that time is on freebmd

Births Jun 1863
FAHIE Conroy O Donald - Maidstone 2a 504




EDIT - No, not him

1891
Name: Albert Cooper
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's name: Joseph Cooper
Mother's name: Elizabeth Cooper
Gender: Male
Where born: St Georges, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 154
Folio: 129
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Cooper 32 occ bricklayers lab b Clerkenwell
Elizabeth Cooper 29 b Islington
Albert Cooper 11
Joseph Cooper 9
Ann Cooper 7
Elizabeth E Cooper 4
Florence Cooper 11/12
George Stubbs 41



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 154; Folio 129; Page 37; GSU roll: 6095264.

A bit of bacjkground info

1891 England Census
about Comdy Craft Name: Comdy Craft
[Conrad or Conroy Craft]
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Craft
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitechapel, London, England

Civil parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: St George in the East
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St George North
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 287
Folio: 57
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Comdy Craft 31
Ellen Craft 27



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)
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Craft Conroy Mile End 1c 756
LEAHY Ellen Mile End 1c 756


Andy

1881 England Census about Joseph Cooper
Name: Joseph Cooper
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Cooper
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampstead
Civil parish: Clerkenwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 50 Northampton St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Laborer
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 346
Folio: 40
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Cooper 24 labourer
Elizabeth Cooper 20
Albert Cooper 2

did they have more children

1911 census
COOPER, Albert Head Married M 32 1879 Carman London VIEW
COOPER, Elizabeth M Wife Married
11 years F 30 1881 London VIEW
COOPER, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1904 School London Stepney VIEW
COOPER, Winnifred Daughter F 6 1905 School London Stepney VIEW
COOPER, Ada Daughter F 3 1908 London Stepney VIEW
COOPER, Louie Daughter M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 London Stepney VIEW
COOPER, Charley Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 London Stepney VIEW
WILSON, Kate Sister In Law Single F 24 1887 London Stepney VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1590 Reference:
RG14PN1590 RG78PN56 RD21 SD1 ED19 SN273

Registration District:
Mile End Old Town Sub District:
Mile End Old Town South Western Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Mile End Old Town

Address:
77 Clark St Stepney London E County:
London

married 11 years 9 children born 4 died

Name: Albert Cooper
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1900
Registration district: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1c
Page Number: 193
spouse Elizabeth Wilson

Marriage?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Cooper Albert Shoreditch 1c 193
Wilson Elizabeth Shoreditch 1c 193


Andy

Albert Cooper
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Wilson
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 06 Aug 1900
Parish: St Andrew, Hoxton
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Alfred Cooper
Spouse Father Name: George Wilson

Nope Wrong marriage !!!
Name: Albert Cooper
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Wilson
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 06 Aug 1900
Parish: St Andrew, Hoxton
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Alfred Cooper
Spouse Father Name: George Wilson


Hoxton came under Shoreditch reg district

Births Sep 1859
CRAFT Conrad - Mile End 1c 491



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Marriages Mar 1885

Bowdler Thomas Mile End 1c 756
Craft Conroy Mile End 1c 756
LAMBIRTH Agnes Mile End 1c 756
LEAHY Ellen Mile End 1c 756

on the 1901 census Elizabeth was a sister - perhaps she was a sister of Ellen -


birth of William E (Cooper) ?


Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
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Leahy William Edward St. Geo. East 1c 388

Think we need some feed back from Brenda on whats been posted so far . :-D

Thank you all for your replys. Here are some answers. Josephs fathers occupation on Alberts birth certificate Bricklayers labourer. I have the birth cert for William Edward Cooper born February 1899 St George in the East father William Reginald . Mother Mary Eliza Cooper formerly Church.Not the right William. Again wrong cert obtained for a marriage August 1900 Shoreditch. Albert Cooper a carman( father Alfred Cooper) and Elizabeth Wilson.

Albert occupation on his death cert was a labourer (electricity power station.) he lived 27 St Georges Road Islington. but died St Mary`s Islington (Highgate Hill). 1934

Thank you all for your replys. Here are some answers. Josephs fathers occupation on Alberts birth certificate Bricklayers labourer. I have the birth cert for William Edward Cooper born February 1899 St George in the East father William Reginald . Mother Mary Eliza Cooper formerly Church.Not the right William. Again wrong cert obtained for a marriage August 1900 Shoreditch. Albert Cooper a carman( father Alfred Cooper) and Elizabeth Wilson.

Albert occupation on his death cert was a labourer (electricity power station.) he lived 27 St Georges Road Islington. but died St Mary`s Islington (Highgate Hill). 1934

I rather suspect that Choccy may have the birth of William E Cooper as posted earlier.

Born before Elizabeth got together with Albert?And maybe they did not marry legally?

Did they have more children?
Have you found them on 1911?
I am not finding William under Leahy OR Cooper with parents Elizabeth and Albert on it...In fact cant find anything other than that posted by Shirley for 1911..


Births Jun 1899

Leahy William Edward St. Geo. East 1c 388