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Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Aug 2011 10:11

Please can anyone help.
I am trying to find a marriage and Brides Surname.
I have William H Chappell born 1869 Falmouth. He married Theresa?
Their first child Dorothy was born 1894 Plymouth.
Theresa was born 1871 Plymouth, according to the 1901 census.
Jeanette

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Aug 2011 10:15

William H Chappell
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1869 —Flushing, Cornwall
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Plymouth, Devonshire, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Plymouth, Devonshire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: William H Chappell
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 32
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Flushing, Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Plymouth
sub-district: St Andrew
ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
civil parish: Plymouth
county:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Aug 2011 10:17

Dorothy May Chappell
England and Wales Census, 1911

birth: Plymouth, Devonshire
residence: 1911 —Plymouth, Plymouth, Devonshire, England
census: 1911 —Plymouth, Plymouth, Devonshire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1911
name: Dorothy May Chappell
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 17
birthplace: Plymouth, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Plymouth
sub-district: Plymouth South West
parish: Plymouth
county:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Aug 2011 10:22

Theresa May Chappell
England and Wales Census, 1911

birth: Plymouth, Devonshire
residence: 1911 —Plymouth, Plymouth, Devonshire, England
census: 1911 —Plymouth, Plymouth, Devonshire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1911
name: Theresa May Chappell
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 41
birthplace: Plymouth, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Plymouth
sub-district: Plymouth South West
parish: Plymouth
county:

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Aug 2011 10:31

Theresa had a middle name according to the 1911 census:-

CHAPPELL, William Henry Head Married M 42 1869 Porter Fa;mouth Cornwall
CHAPPELL, Theresa May Wife Married 20 years F 41 1870 Sweing Machinist Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, Dorothy May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Genl Servant Domestic Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, Marian Daughter Single F 16 1895 Genl Servant Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, Edward Percy Son Single M 11 1900 School Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, William Henry Son Single M 5 1906 School Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, Ronald Victor Son Single M 4 1907 Plymouth Devon

7 children born to the marriage. 5 alive and 2 have died.


Address:
6 Skardon Court Plymouth

Reference:
RG14PN13000 RG78PN749 RD276 SD3 ED24 SN295

I can't find a marriage for them on Findmypast. Perhaps they never actually married.

Kath. x

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°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 22 Aug 2011 10:33

Not only can I not find a marriage, I can't find a Thersa May birth

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Aug 2011 10:37

No I cant either, I can find them on all the census above but cant find a marriage or birth for theresa
Jeanette

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Aug 2011 10:39

The birth may not have been registered as it was before 1875 when penalties were introduced for not registering a birth. Before this date many births were not registered.

I think you will have to get one of the children's birth certificates for Theresa's full name.

Kath. x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Aug 2011 10:42

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Theresa M Chappell
Name: Theresa M Chappell
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 736

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Aug 2011 10:56

Thankyou
I live in Plymouth so I wonder if I might be able to find an obit for Theresa. Might get some info from that
Jeanette

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 9 Sep 2011 19:00

I have now got the birth cert of one of William and Theresea's children. Theresas maiden name was Collier. Still cant find a marriage though. On the birth cert the father is named as Harry Chappell but still with the same occupation.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 19:14

I know PH found a death a while back, but there is this, too:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Theresa M Collier
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 736

Wonder if they never married and death was registered in both names?

Can't find a Theresa Collier in any earlier census. Although she gave Collier as maiden name when birth registsred but perhaps that was actually a previous married name?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 19:24

Possible 1891? (Thursa is sometimes substituted for Theresa):

COLLIER, Robert Head Married M 56 1835 Cab Driver Plymstock Devonshire
COLLIER, Jane Wife Married F 54 1837 Porlock Somersetshire
COLLIER, Arthur S Son Single M 23 1868 Cab Driver Compton-Gifford Devonshire
>>COLLIER, Thursa M Daughter Single F 20 1871 Domestic Duties At Home Compton-Gifford Devonshire
COLLIER, Mabel Daughter F 14 1877 Scholar Compton-Gifford Devonshire
COLLIER, Ernest Son M 10 1881 Scholar Compton-Gifford Devonshire
COLLIER, Ernest C D Grandson M 1 1890 Plymouth Devonshire

Registration District: Plymouth
Sub District: St Andrew
Enumeration District: 8
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church
Civil Parish: Plymouth
Municipal Borough: Plymouth

Address: 1, Gloucester Lane, Plymouth County: Devonshire

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 9 Sep 2011 19:26

Marie, I believe you are correct as I have seen that before when someone not actually married, I couldn't find her either.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 19:30

I'm guessing Thriz is her in 1881:

COLLIER, Robert Head Married M 47 1834 Cab Proprieter Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Jane Wife Married F 44 1837 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Edward Son Single M 20 1861 Cab Driver Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Charles Son Single M 15 1866 None Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Sonney Son Single M 13 1868 Compton Gifford Devon
>>COLLIER, Thriz Daughter Single F 10 1871 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Maunka Daughter Single F 8 1873 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Melia Daughter Single F 5 1876 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Mable Daughter Single F 4 1877 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Herniss Son Single M 0 1881 Compton Gifford Devon

Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Sub District: Plympton
Civil Parish: Compton-Gifford

Address: Elm Road Mannamead, Compton-Gifford County: Devonshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 19:35

Possible 1871:

COLLIER, Robert Head M 37 1834 Devon
COLLIER, Jane Wife F 32 1839 Somerset
COLLIER, Emna Daughter F 8 1863 Devon
COLLIER, Edward Son M 10 1861 Devon
COLLIER, Charles Son M 5 1866 Devon
COLLIER, Sidney Son M 3 1868 Devon
??COLLIER, Thressia Daughter F 0 1871 Devon

Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Sub District: Plympton
Enumeration District: 12
Civil Parish: Compton Gifford

Address: Mannamead Stables, Compton Gifford County: Devonshire

Christine

Christine Report 8 Feb 2012 08:46

Theresa May Collier daughter of Robert & Jane Collier was born on 1st May 1870 and baptised on 31st July 1872 at Emmanuel Church, Compton Gifford, Devon

I found this posting because I was stuck as to what happened to Theresa as I could find no death, marriage or trace of her on later census records.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Feb 2012 16:25

Hello Christine, and welcome to the boards.

Looks like we've been working from opposite directions and met in the middle!