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Are you the Kim that's relation was working the Tower of London in 1851?

Thanks everyone for your help

Name: Harriet Blake
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1902
Registration district: Thetford
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 1032a (click to see others on page)

Only person on this marriage ,but it's Norfolk

1902 is when his service finished ,and im still not finding a marriage.Harriet could just have changed her name .Allowed if no fraud intended.Marriage by repute.Did that happen in England .

Ellie

Certainly his father's service records are on FMP - 8 pages - refers to his having lost an arm at Inkerman. I thought he might have been in the Coldstream Guards with my ggrandfather but they weren't in at the same time.

BWs

Kim

1901
Name: Albert Edward Blake
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Woodham Ferrers
Ecclesiastical parish: Woodham Ferrers St Mary
Town: Woodham Ferrers
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Chelmsford
Sub-registration district: Ingatestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 1669
Folio: 48
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Curds 56
Walter Henry Curds 23
Arthur E G Curds 21
Agnes Amelia Curds 15
Albert Edward Blake

As you say

Thank you all for looking

Oddly, although his Boer War medal awards are on Ancestry, his service records aren't on FMP...though it looks like those of other members of his family might be. Weird....

ellieathome yes that will be him thank you, his dad was a coldstream guard until he lost his arm so there are strong millitary connections.

Lynski, that will be him, he was an office porter who I wished married this Harriet

Another odd thing, Harriet died CURDS in 1952 (?) but I've spoken to her grandson who is now in his 80's & he never met her!

Think it will be Kew Gardens for marriage record.I have searched for a Harriet Blake marriage ,with no luck

Ellie

Sorry, Claire, he isn't there.

I suspect that he and Harriet were never married....perhaps he had previously married someone else (I did find a couple of marriages of an Albert Edward Curds but not to Harriet Blake) and divorce was very difficult and expensive in those days. I note that their first son, registered as "Blake" was killed in 1918 as A E Curds.

Perhaps your contact who contacts not who is doing the Blake line, got his/her information from someone doing the Curds (such as a tree on Ancestry).

Sorry I can't solve it for you

Best wishes
Kim
Hull, East Yorks

For reference -

1901 census -

CURDS, Margaret Head Widow F 56 1845
Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, Walter Henry Son Single M 23 1878 Soldier
Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, Arthur E Henry Son Single M 21 1880 Bricklayer
Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, Agnes Amelia Daughter Single F 15 1886 Schollar
Woodham Ferris
Essex VIEW
BLAKE, Albert Edward Grand Son Single M 1 1900
Hertfordshire
Hertfordshire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1669 Folio:
48 Page:
5

Registration District:
Chelmsford Sub District:
Ingatestone Enumeration District:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Woodham Ferris St Marys

Civil Parish:
Woodham Ferris Municipal Borough:
Address:
Swan Inn, Woodham Ferris County:
Essex

Because Curds is such an unusual name I've been able to trace back Albert's family but Harriet can only be guess work. If I remember correctly, Albert Edward BLAKE was with Margaret Curds on the 1901 so I'm pretty certain I've given Albert Edward CURDS the correct parents

1891 census -
His place of birth matches the 1911 census?

VENIE, Frederick Head Married M 35 1856 Licensed Victualler
Suffolk
VENIE, Florence Wife Married F 28 1863 London
VENIE, Frederick Son M 4 1887 London
VENIE, Henry Percy Son M 3 1888 London
THOWE, Margaret Louise Sister Single F 32 1859 Barmaid
London
CURD, Albert Servant Single M 20 1871 Potman Woodham
BIETH, Mary Ann Servant Single F 17 1874 Domestic Servant
England
JURY, Alica Servant Single F 18 1873 Domestic Servant
Worthing Sussex

RG number: RG12 Piece: 87 Folio: 138 Page: 5
Registration District: Westminster Sub District: St James Westminster Enumeration District: 18 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Lukes
Civil Parish: St James Westminster Municipal Borough:
Address: 173a, 1 The George, Wardour Street, St James Westminster, Westminster County: London

Name: A E Curds
Campaign or Service: South Africa - Second Boer War
Service Date: 1899-1902
Service Location: South Africa
Regiment or Unit Name: 3rd Battalion Essex
Regimental Number: 7201

1881 census -

CURDS, James Head Married M 55 1826 Pensioner Army
Rawreth Essex VIEW
CURDS, Margaret Wife Married F 36 1845 Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, Annie Daughter Single F 14 1867 Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, William Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, Albert Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, Walter Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, Laura Daughter Single F 4 1877 Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, Arthur Son Single M 2 1879 Rettendon
Essex VIEW
CURDS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 0 1881 Rettendon
Essex VIEW

RG number: RG11 Piece: 1760 Folio: 31 Page: 14
Registration District: Chelmsford Sub District: Ingatestone Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Rettendon Municipal Borough:
Address: London Rd, Rettendon County: Essex

Thank you. I thought Lynski may have found something there but there was an Albert Edward CURD born Steyning 1868

I've tried a search on all marriages for albert curds and variants (Curd, Card, Cardus etc) marrying a Blake but to no avail. I'm going to see if I can find his service record as he was in the Boer War and see if there is a clue there.

He appears on a couple of public trees on Ancestry but no marriage date/place is given.

For reference -

Births Mar 1872 (>99%)
Curds Albert Edward Chelmsford 4a 204



1911 census -
CURDS, Albert Head Married 10 years M 38 1873 Porter Woodham Ferrice Essex England VIEW
CURDS, Harrit Wife Married F 29 1882 Ware Side Herts VIEW
CURDS, Willie Son M 9 1902 Bermondsey London VIEW
CURDS, Gladys Daughter F 4 1907 Edmonton London VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 7377
Reference: RG14PN7377 RG78PN357 RD132 SD5 ED27 SN233
Registration District: Edmonton Sub District: Edmonton Enumeration District: 27 Parish: Edmonton
Address: 81 Grosvenor Road Lower Edmonton N County: Middlesex

Original census states 3 children born, 1 died.



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Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%)
CURD Albert Edward Steyning 2b 502
Scott Harriett Blanche Steyning 2b 502

Albert Edwards CURDS 1872 born Rettendon Essex
& Harriet BLAKE probably 1881 Ware Hertfordshire

First child Albert Edward BLAKE 1900 Hertfordshire ( don't have cert)

I could never find a marriage so I assumed they just lived together until I found a contact with Albert & Harriet's children in their tree.

If this contact was doing the Curds tree, she could have got Harriet's maiden name by the birth of the children after 1911 & her details from the 1911 census but she's not, she's doing the Blake tree.

All attempts of extracting the marriage details from this contact have failed.

Anyone fancy trying this one please?