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Rose
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25 Aug 2011 17:38 |
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could you look up James Setherton Age 33 born in Bishops nympton Devon and probably still living there, thanks
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Maddie
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25 Aug 2011 17:46 |
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1911 SEATHERTON, James Head Single M 47 1864 Police Pensioner Molecatcher Devon Bishopsnympton VIEW SEATHERTON, Harriet Mother Widow F 79 1832 Somerset Exford VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13271 Reference: RG14PN13271 RG78PN770 RD283 SD1 ED3 SN83 Registration District: South Molton Sub District: Witheridge Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Bishops Nympton Address: Bish Mill Southmolton County: Devonshire
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Maddie
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25 Aug 2011 17:47 |
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i love his occupation if it is him age is a bit out wonder how he did it maddie
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25 Aug 2011 17:50 |
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1911??
WILLIAMS, Beatrice Jane Head Married 9 years F 39 1872 Glamorgan Dyle VIEW WILLIAMS, Arthur Gustaven Edwin Son M 8 1903 Glamorgan Maesteg VIEW SITHERTON, James Boarder Single M 30 1881 Signalman Devon Bishops Nympton VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 32554 Reference: RG14PN32554 RG78PN1859 RD591 SD2 ED14 SN210 Registration District: Bridgend Sub District: Ogmore Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Ynysawdre Address: 180 Bryn Road Aberkenfig County: Glamorganshire
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Maddie
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25 Aug 2011 17:50 |
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1881 for info setherdon
SETHERDON, John Head Married M 28 1853 Stone Mason Chittlehampton Devon VIEW SETHERDON, Emma Wife Married F 30 1851 Wife Bps Nympton Devon VIEW SETHERDON, W A Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Bps Nympton Devon VIEW SETHERDON, James Son Single M 3 1878 Bps Nympton Devon VIEW CHANTER, Allice Grand Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Bps Nympton Devon VIEW SETHERDON, John Son Single M 0 1881 Bps Nympton Devon VIEW RG number: RG11 Piece: 2239 Folio: 23 Page: 5 Registration District: South Molton Sub District: Witheridge Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Bishops Nympton Municipal Borough: Address: Village, Bishops Nympton County: Devonshire
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brummiejan
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25 Aug 2011 17:51 |
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Not sure it's the same person - love that occupation, could do with him in my garden (10 molehilss & counting)
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Name: James Q Seatherton Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Gender: Male Where born: Bishops Rymplor, Devon, England Civil parish: Devonport Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Town: Devonport County/Island: Devon Country: England
1901 England
Name: James Setherton Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Brother-in-Law Gender: Male Where born: Mariansleigh, Devon, England
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brummiejan
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25 Aug 2011 17:53 |
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The James born 1878 above was a 'trapper of rabbits' though! So who knows?
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Maddie
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25 Aug 2011 17:54 |
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a rabbit trapper in 1901 if the right person WEBBER, Charles J Head Married M 34 1867 Inn Keeper Southmolton Devonshire VIEW WEBBER, Eliza Wife Married F 34 1867 Southmolton Devonshire VIEW WEBBER, Edith Jane Daughter F 7 1894 Bishopsnympton Devonshire VIEW WEBBER, Alice Maud Daughter F 5 1896 Bishopsnympton Devonshire VIEW WEBBER, Minnie May Daughter F 4 1897 Bishopsnympton Devonshire VIEW WEBBER, Lucy Ann Daughter F 3 1898 Bishopsnympton Devonshire VIEW WEBBER, Charles John Son M 1 1900 Bishopsnympton Devonshire VIEW SETHERTON, James Brother-In-Law M 23 1878 Trapper Of Rabbits Mariansleigh Devonshire VIEW RG number: RG13 Piece: 2139 Folio: 23 Page: 6 Registration District: South Molton Sub District: Witheridge Enumeration District: 3 Ecclesiastical Parish: Bishopsnympton Civil Parish: Bishopsnympton Municipal Borough: Address: New Inn Tavern, Bishopsnympton County: Devonshire
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brummiejan
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25 Aug 2011 17:54 |
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No, the 1864 James is a policeman in 1901 so definitely the same as 1911. jan
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Rose
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25 Aug 2011 18:15 |
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Thansk for all these not sure which is him need to double check. I would love him to be a mole catcher though!
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brummiejan
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25 Aug 2011 18:53 |
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It might help if you tell us a bit more - such as who he married, parents, children maybe? jan
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25 Aug 2011 19:55 |
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The parents of James are John and Emma............(The 1881 census that Maddie posted) To avoid duplicate research Jayne.........it would have been best to have added this information to your original Setherton thread.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1278363
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Rose
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26 Aug 2011 17:15 |
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Thanks everyone. I did add it to my original thread as you have attached pricklyholly but no one replied so I thought it had been missed as it was an addition. sorry if it caused any problems. I will do some double checking and if I ahve anymore relevant information I will get back here.
I could not find any marriage, children or death for him so only know his parent John and Emma.
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26 Aug 2011 17:23 |
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If you ever feel your thread has been missed...........just put Nudge in the box and press submit. This will bump your thread back up to the top. PH.
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Maddie
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26 Aug 2011 19:37 |
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could this be his parents BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Marriage Name: SETHERTON, John Registration District: Help South Molton County: Devon Year of Registration: 1874 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume No: Help 5B Page No: Help 807 MarriageFinderâ„¢: John Setherton married one of the following people Help
CHANTER, Emma view record
PARKHOUSE, Mary view record
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Maddie
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26 Aug 2011 19:40 |
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there iare these death s???? BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Death Name: SEATHERTON, James Registration District: Help Barnstaple County: Devon Year of Registration: 1969 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Date of Birth: 14 April 1877 Volume No: 7A Page No: 684 Printer friendly version
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Civil Registration event: Death Name: SETHERTON, James Registration District: Help Cardiff County: Glamorganshire Year of Registration: 1950 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 72 Volume No: 8B Page No: 186 Printer friendly version
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Rose
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27 Aug 2011 10:20 |
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Thanks Maddie, this is definately James and Emma marriage. I will check the deaths.
There are some many vaiations on our name SETHERTON!!
Thank you prickly holly I did not know you could do that sorry.
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27 Aug 2011 11:31 |
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Found this James in 1911 - The image looks like Seatherton and the below marriage looks like the couple
1911 LEATHERTON, James Head Married M 33 1878 Farmer Mariansleigh Devon VIEW LEATHERTON, Bessie Wife Married 7 years F 35 1876 Barnstaple Devon VIEW LEATHERTON, William Son M 6 1905 Rose Ash Devon VIEW LEATHERTON, Bessie Emma Daughter F 1 1910 Rose Ash Devon VIEW COPP, Sarah Lock Visitor Married F 58 1853 Sherill Devon VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13286 Reference: RG14PN13286 RG78PN770 RD283 SD1 ED18 SN43 Registration District: South Molton Sub District: Witheridge Enumeration District: 18 Parish: Rose Ash Address: Bickwell Rose Ash S Molton County: Devonshire
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%) Bowden William S.Molton 5b 687 Brayley Mary Ann E S. Molton 5b 687 >>Copp Bessie S. Molton 5b 687 >>Seatherton James S. Molton 5b 687
This could be the marriage for the James Sitherton/Setherton that I found earlier in 1911 living in Glamorgan
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
Challenger Minnie Setherton Cardiff 11a 876 Setherton James Challenger Cardiff 11a 876
These two James could tie in with the deaths that Maddie found
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27 Aug 2011 14:07 |
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Maybe this is why your James (or one of the two) is possibly not on the 1901 census. He appears to have joined up in 1897. He was discharged in 23 November 1907 and is listed as being in South Africa between 1899 and 1903.
His father is listed as John Seatherton of Bishops Nympton. As this one I found listed as Leatherton in 1911 married in 1904 I presume this could well be the James who was in Wales in 1911 and married later
British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Printer friendly version First name(s): James Last name: SEATHERTON Calculated year of birth: 1879 Parish of birth: Bishopsnimton Town of birth: Bishopsnimton County of birth: Devon Age at attestation: 18 years 10 months Attestation date: 24 November 1897 Attestation corps: Devonshire Regiment Report transcription error Attestation soldier number: 4943 Discharge rank: Discharge corps: Discharge soldier number: The National Archives reference: WO97 / 5865 / 11
There is looks like the other James who also lists his father as John Seatherton, but gives his address at enlistment as with Mr Ayre of Roadmarsh Farm in the Parish of Rose Ash. No details are given of his service or when he left the army.
First name(s): James Last name: SEATHERTON Calculated year of birth: 1879 Parish of birth: Bishopsnympton Town of birth: South Molton County of birth: Devon Age at attestation: 18 years 10 months Attestation date: 11 October 1897 Attestation corps: 4TH BATTALION DEVONSHIRE REGIMENT Report transcription error Attestation soldier number: 3555 Discharge rank: Discharge corps: Devonshire Regiment - 11th Foot Discharge soldier number: The National Archives reference: WO96 / 241 / 366
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Rose
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31 May 2012 18:44 |
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Amazing I have just discover that the above James the Mole Catcher is a relative!!! He is the son of my great great grandfathers brother!!! so brummiejan and Maddie, it is a shame we cannot "time travel" and find out how he did it..
Thanks again for the help- and it all fits in in the end.
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