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Teresa please keep to one thread,

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1278484

Henry Winter married Mary Ann loomes at St Mark Birmingham 06.06.1865

Derek.

thank you everyone for your help.

You need to find his marriage......the cert will name his father

1871

Name: Henry Winters
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Winters
Gender: Male
Where born: Waterman, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 78
Piece: 2978
Folio: 101
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Winters 24
Mary A Winters 25
William H Winters 5
George T Winters 1

This ties in with the 1911 i posted....


Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Henry WINTER Head M Male 37 Watermead, Gloucester, England Labourer
Mary A. WINTER Wife M Female 35 Lutterworth, Leicester, England
George I. WINTER Son Male 11 Hereford, England Scholar
Ann M. WINTER Daur Female 8 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Scholar
Henry WINTER Son Male 6 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Scholar
Thomas WINTER Son Male 2 Smethwick, Stafford, England
Sarah E. WINTER Daur Female 7 m Smethwick, Stafford, England
William TOWNSEND Lodger M Male 73 Oldbury, Worcester, England Rope Maker

Source Information:
Dwelling No 36 Victoria St
Census Place Harborne, Stafford, England

?????? 1851

Name: Henry Winter
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Winter
Mother's name: Martha Winter
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Cirencester
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Cirencester
Sub-registration district: Cotswold
ED, institution, or vessel: 11h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 1968
Folio: 469
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Winter 36
Martha Winter 37
Mary Ann Winter 14
Emma Winter 12
Henry Winter 7
Eliza Winter 4
Sarah Winter 9 MO

Son Thomas's marriage?

Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%)
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SAUNDERS Edith W. Bromwich 6b 906
WHITEHOUSE Florence Louisa W. Bromwich 6b 906
WINTER Thomas W.Bromwich 6b 906

1891

Name: Henry Winter
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Winter
Gender: Male
Where born: Watermade, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2268
Folio: 35
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Winter 47
Mary Ann Winter 45
Ann M Winter 18
Henry Winter 16
Thomas Winter 12
Sarah E Winter 10
Samuel Winter 8
Norah Winter 4
Mary Ann Winter 2

sorry all, great grandad x3 one of henry's sons was thomas born 1880

Henry Winter baptised Taynton Gloucestershire 20.07.1845 son of Isaac and Sarah............Taynton is virtually on the Herefordshire ?Gloucestershire Border................can find nothing in Herefordshire......

Derek.

I wondered too about being your grandfather, born 1844. I'm a senior but my grandparents were born 1880's.

Who was the son? and where and when was he born?

This seems to be the only one in West bromwich in 1901 but not Sam's Lane, it's 21 Thomas St.

1901 England Census
about Henry Winter Name: Henry Winter
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Winter
Gender: Male
Where born: Tucksbury, Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 215
Piece: 2718
Folio: 67
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Winter 57
Mary A Winter 55
Henry Winter 26
Sarah W Pullen 20
Sam Winter 18
Polly Winter 12
Norah Winter 14

1881 census is FREE...........you can easily look for him yourself on there...........

I think he's your grandfather a few times removed, if he was born in 1844!

Can he really be your Grandad if he was born in 1844??

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: WINTER, Henry
Address: 19 Mallin St Smethwick


WINTER, Henry Head Married M 67 1844 Labourer Glostershire VIEW
WINTER, Mary Ann Wife Married
45 years F 65 1846 Leicestershire VIEW
WINTER, Samuel Son Married
8 years M 28 1883 Gatherer Smethwick VIEW
WINTER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 30 1881 Westbromwich VIEW
WINTER, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1904 Westbromwich VIEW
WINTER, Norah Daughter F 6 1905 Westbromwich VIEW
WINTER, May Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Smethwick VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17967 Reference:
RG14PN17967 RG78PN1094 RD383 SD4 ED25 SN33

Registration District:
Kings Norton Sub District:
Smethwick Enumeration District:
25 Parish:
Smethwick

Address:
19 Mallin St Smethwick County:
Worcestershire

grandad henry winter born we think 1844 in herefordshire/gloucstershire i have him on his sons wedding certificate in 1909 he lived in sams lane west bromwich and was a labourer. trying to find all his details if we can.