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I'm trying to find further details about Alfred Owen (who he married, parents etc). He is the father of Annie Owen (1874) who married Charles Pegg (1870) in December 1893 in Christchurch, Dudley.

Have you found them on any censuses, etc, to stop us duplicating information?
Thanks

Hello Jane, in addition to patchem's question - can you give us any more info on Annie - like birthplace or siblings? It's not an unusual name and there are quite a few with that name on the census so we need to narrow it down.

I have Charles and Annie on the 1911 living at 8 Queen St Cradley Heath and have a copy of their marriage certificate which has Alfred as the father.

Possible birth for Alfred?

Name: Alfred OWEN
DOB: MARCH 1848
Place of Birth: Dudley
Vol: 18
Page: 257

For ref:
1901 England Census
Annie E Pegg
Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Pegg
Gender: Female Where born: Cradley Heath, Staffordshire, England
Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Household schedule number: 177 Piece: 2733 Folio: 168 Page Number: 31

Charles Pegg 30
Annie E Pegg 27
Charles A Pegg 6
Minnie Pegg 5
Beatrice L Pegg 3
William Pegg 1

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2733; Folio: 168; Page: 31.

At least the 1911 (for helper's reference) gives us her birthplace and an indication of a middle name:

PEGG, Charles Head Married M 40 1871 Striker Chain Quarry Bank Staffs
PEGG, Annie E Wife Married 17 years F 37 1874 Cradley Heath Staffs
PEGG, Charles A Son Single M 16 1895 Painter And Paperhanger Quarry Bank Staffs
PEGG, Minnie Daughter Single F 15 1896 Servant Domestic Cradley Heath Staffs
PEGG, Beatrice L Daughter F 13 1898 School Cradley Heath Staffs
PEGG, William Son M 11 1900 School Cradley Heath Staffs
PEGG, Fanny Daughter F 8 1903 Cradley Heath Staffs
PEGG, Bertie Son M 6 1905 Cradley Heath Staffs
PEGG, James Son M 4 1907 Cradley Heath Staffs
PEGG, Doris Daughter F 2 1909 Cradley Heath Staffs

Registration District: Dudley
Sub District: Rowley Regis
Enumeration District: 19
Parish: Rowley Regis

Address: 8 Queen Street Cradley Heath Staffordshire
County: Staffordshire

Yes - that's them. I also know Annie was living at Cross Walk at time of marriage.

His birth? Should give you both parents

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Alfred Owen
Name: Alfred Owen
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1847
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Volume: 18
Page: 399

Where did you get the information of birth 1845 and Stourbridge?
Thanks

Possibly her in 1891:

PROFFITT, Thomas Head Married M 52 1839 Engine Fitter & Publican Bilston Staffordshire
PROFFITT, Matilda Wife Married F 60 1831 Sedgley Staffordshire Paisy Bank
>>OWEN, Anne Servant Single F 18 1873 Cradley Staffordshire Heath
PROFFITT, Danial Son Boarder Married M 31 1860 Engine Fitter Sedgley Staffordshire Pairy Bank
PROFFITT, Susan Boarder Married F 25 1866 Brierley Hill Staffordshire
PROFFITT, Beatrice Boarder F 5 1886 Cradley Worcestershire
PROFFITT, Minerva Boarder F 3 1888 Cradley Worcestershire
PROFFITT, Florence M Boarder F 2 1889 Cradley Worcestershire
PROFFITT, John H Boarder M 0 (3W) 1891 Cradley Worcestershire
THOMAS, Henrietta Servant Single F 17 1874 Servant Domestic Walsall Staffordshire

Registration District: Stourbridge
Sub District: Halesowen
Enumeration District: 10
Ecclesiastical Parish: Cradley

Civil Parish: Cradley

Address: Holly Bush Inn, High Street, Cradley County: Worcestershire

Unlikely?
1881 England Census
Anne Elizabeth Owen
Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Alfred Owen
Mother's Name: Maria Owen
Gender: Female Where born: Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Rowley Regis County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 90 Club Building
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 2861 Folio: 99
Page Number: 30

Alfred Owen 55 Warminster Wiltshire
Maria Owen 49
William Henry Owen 18 Cradley
John Henry Owen 14 Rowley
Anne Elizabeth Owen 7 Rowley
Jeremiah Owen 5 Rowley

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2861; Folio: 99; Page: 30; GSU roll: 1341686.

Now, I would think this 1881 is the same Annie that we've tracked back from 1911, (the middle initial E and the birthplace) BUT - the father's birthplace and age differs to what Jane states?

OWEN, Alfred Head Married M 55 1826 Cokeman Warminster Wiltshire
OWEN, Maria Wife Married F 49 1832 Westbury Wiltshire
OWEN, William Henry Son Single M 18 1863 Cradley Worcestershire
OWEN, John Henry Son Single M 14 1867 Chain Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
OWEN, Anne Elizabeth Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
OWEN, Jeremiah Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire

Registration District: Dudley
Sub District: Rowley Regis
Civil Parish: Rowley Regis

Address: 90, Club Building, Rowley Regis County: Staffordshire

** What was Alfred's occupation on the marriage certificate?

EDIT: Snap, patchem!

Aagh! I can't remember where I got his date of birth from - I put it my tree some time ago and didn't put a reference.

Occupation on marriage certificate - Labourer

Have just looked at 1891 census for Alfred Owen b1826 from the above 1881, and in 1891 his occupation was "Labourer in Ironworks"

Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate? If family members they might give us a clue.

Possible birth for Annie?

Name: Annie Elizabeth OWEN
DOB: SEPTEMBER 1873
Place of Birth: Dudley
Vol: 6c
Page: 10

Think that's probably him then - great!

Sadly the witnesses were not family - Alice Street and someone else unreadable Street. Thanks for possible Annie birth ref.