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I have looked for other trees but haven't found any with Catherine in them.

Raelene

Have you tried the search trees to see if you can find a connection?

It is very unlikely that anyone related will see this post in the near future unfortunatly


jax

Thanks for all your help I have found it is a little difficult finding out about Irish roots as a lot of info has been lost. I thought someone might have had connection with this branch.
Ralene

I can find no Sin*ot* born 1825-1845 in Ireland on a census before the 1861 Census


BUT there are quite a few Sin*ot* born 1790-1810 in Ireland on the 1841 and 1851 Censuses

None named Martin or Walter though!


This implies to me that Catherine and Walter Poell, and their families, arrived in Liverpool sometime after 1851.




Unfortunately, there are no passenger lists for ships from ireland to England



I think you will have to do more searching on irish sites.





sylvia

A Private Family Tree on ancestry suggests that his second forename might actually be Purcell

GARNETT Family Forest in Ireland & abroad
Personal Member Tree
Unsourced
Walter Powell [or Purcell] Sinnotte



This is all I can see





sylvia

According to the 1861 Census, Walter P Sinnotte was born in ireland


and Eliza was 10 years older than him despite what it says on the marrigae certificate


But I don't see the link with Catherine that would be the reason for him being a witness at her wedding!




sylvia

hmmmmmmmmmm


Walter Powell married again in 1864 ...... to an Isabella Baylis. Wonder if she's any connection to the John Baylis??

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Walter Powell Sinnotte

Name: Walter Powell Sinnotte
Birth Year: abt 1824
Age: 39
Marriage Date: 17 Aug 1863
Parish: Liverpool All Saints
Spouse's Name: Isabella Baylis
Father's Name: Walter Sinnotte
Spouse Father's Name: Robert Baylis

from image:-

39
Widower
School Master
Address:- 4 Juvenal Street
Father occupation:- Leather Dealer

Isabella
25
Spinster
no occupation shown
Address:- 4 Juvenal Street
Father occupation:- Druggist

Witnesses:- Caleb Jaffa and Ellen Baylis



sylvia

Raelene


The witnesses on Catherine and Daniel's marriage certificate, as seen on ancestry appear to be

Walter Powell Sinnotte and Eliza Sinnotte


NOT Martin and Eliza Sinnott, as you said in your opening post



It is also notable that Catherine is shown as Full Age, ie over 21, while Daniel is a Minor, ie under 21, and thus needed parental permission.




sylvia

These look like siblings,I think. Father Martin is a shoemaker.

All Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns

Rosanna Sinnott 1 Mar 1860 Liverpool St Nicholas William Boylan Martin Sinnott

Walter Sinnott 28 Jul 1869 Liverpool St Nicholas Mary Stewort Martin Sinnott

Catherine Sinnotte 27 Aug 1857 Liverpool St Nicholas Daniel Wadsworth Martin Sinnotte

Roseannah Boylin abt 1841 21 Jul 1872 Everton St George William Richards Martin Sinnot

1861 census transcription details for: 1, Beacon Street, Liverpool
RG number: RG09 Piece: 2658 Folio: 128 Page: 41


Reg. District: Liverpool Sub District: 1 St Martin
Parish: Liverpool Enum. District: 55
Ecclesiastical District: St Aidans City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: 1, Beacon Street, Liverpool
County: Lancashire

BOYLAN, William Head Married M 22 1839 Ship Dock
Ireland
BOYLAN, Roseanna Wife Married F 20 1841
Ireland


Maureen

Hi, Google Dunedin City Council . Cemetery dartabase, has a Catherine d 15 Sep 1934, 95yrs, Daniel d 27 Fb 1915 and there are 6 others in that plot. Maybe yours Pat

the Sinnot's all seem to come from Wexford - could this be a sibling of Catherine?

Mary Sinnott
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
parents: Martin Sinnott, Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Mary Sinnott
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Jul 1855
baptism/christening place: St. Matthew, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
father's name: Martin Sinnott
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: I03262-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1545928

DANIEL WADSWORTH Pedigree
Male Family

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Marriages:
Spouse: CATHERINE SINNOTTE Family
Marriage: 27 AUG 1857 Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Different father

Name: Walter Powell Sinnotte
Birth Year: abt 1824
Age: 39
Marriage Date: 17 Aug 1863
Parish: Liverpool All Saints
Spouse's Name: Isabella Baylis
Father's Name: Walter Sinnotte
Spouse Father's Name: Robert Baylis

Possibly a related person.

Marriages Sep 1863
SINNOTTE Walter Powell Liverpool 8b 5_
Sinnotte Walter Powell Liverpool 8b __1

1863 - SINNOTTE Walter P/BAYLIS Isabella, Liverpool, All Saints Liverpool 2019LP/2/47

I wonder if Walter is the younger brother to Catherine?. The spelling does seem to be Sinnotte though with the E at the end.

With Walter and Catherine missing off the BMD this suggests either they were born before registration or they were born elsewhere. As previously mentioned Sinnotte is of Irish descent. I would suggest they have come over from N.Ireland and settled in Liverpool (as have many before them)

I am going to look for Walter now on the census's


T x

Thanks for checking that out.

Mike,

I think Catherine Jane is someone else's child.

1841 RG number: HO107 Piece: 559 Book/Folio: 25/18 Page: 29

Reg. District: Liverpool Sub District: Islington
Address: Clare Street, Upper Garden Place, Liverpool County: Lancashire
_____________________________________
SINOTT, Lawrance Peter M 30 1811
SINOTT, Cathrin F 20 1821
SINOTT, Cathrine Jane F 2 1839 Lancashire

Looks like Catherine may have been born in Ireland too :(


T x

Spelt Sinnotte on marriage index.


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Marriages Sep 1857
Sinnotte Catherine - Liverpool 8b 314
Wadsworth Daniel - Liverpool 8b 314

No obvious sign of the family on the 1851 census of England. As you are probably already aware the surname Sinnott seems to have Irish Roots.

Did she have a middle name ?

Perhaps Catherine was spelt Catharine

Births Sep 1838
SINNOTT Catharine Jane - Liverpool 20 329

My ggrandmother was Catherine Sinnott b1839. She married Daniel Wadsworth 27/08/1857 at Liverpool. On the marriage cert her father is Martin Sinnott and Martin and Eliza Sinnott as witnesses.

Daniel and Catherine sailed to Australia in 1859 and then on to New Zealand in1861.

Can anyone help with Catherine's ancestors?
Raelene