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Arthur Shipman

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Perchino

Perchino Report 16 Sep 2011 21:12

Sarah's death?

Name Sarah E Boyde
Year of Registration 1916
Quarter of Registration Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Bromley
Registration County Kent
Age at Death: 74
Volume Number 2A
Volume Page 565

Per 1881 Census Sarah born 1844 but 1891 born 1848

Sarah's birth:

Name Sarah Elizabeth Foster
Year of Registration 1842
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Medway
Registration County Kent
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 5
Volume Page 330

Perchino

Perchino Report 15 Sep 2011 20:59

William Boyde:

1851 Census Household Record Address
Parish Wokingham
District Wokingham
Administrative County Berkshire
Householder 1
Name Robert Brown
Age 63
Estimated Year of Birth 1788
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Proprietor Of One House
Birth Place Wokingham
Birth County Berkshire
Householder 2
Name Sarah Lyford
Age 17
Estimated Year of Birth 1834
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation
Birth Place Wokingham
Birth County Berkshire
Householder 3
Name William Boyde
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1835
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation
Birth Place Wokingham
Birth County Berkshire
Householder 4
Name George Short
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Carter
Birth Place Bramley
Birth County Hampshire
Householder 5
Name Henry Brown
Age 38
Estimated Year of Birth 1813
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Farmer Of 100 Acres Employing 2 Labourers
Birth Place Finchampstead
Birth County Berkshire
Householder 6
Name Jane Brown
Age 36
Estimated Year of Birth 1815
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Wokingham
Birth County Berkshire
Householder 7
Name Emmeline Brown
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1846
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Wokingham
Birth County Berkshire
Householder 8
Name Rosalinda Brown
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Wokingham
Birth County Berkshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Sep 2011 20:49

1891 is a complete mess on the transcription

Charles Quart 52 and Ann Quart 62 are on the first household schedule on the page.

Sarah Boyde and the others are on the next household schedule.

So Charles and Ann Quart are nothing to do with Boyde

Perchino

Perchino Report 15 Sep 2011 20:41

1881 Census Boyde:

Address Western Cottages
Parish Foots Cray
District Bromley, Chislehurst
Administrative County Kent
Householder 1
Name William Boyde
Age 44
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Labourer
Birth Place Wokingham
Birth County Berkshire
Householder 2
Name Sarah Boyde
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1844
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Dartford
Birth County Kent
Householder 3
Name James Boyde
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1866
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Grocers Boy
Birth Place Dartford
Birth County Kent
Householder 4
Name Alice Boyde
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Queenboro
Birth County Kent
Householder 5
Name Ellen Boyde
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1874
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Margate
Birth County Kent
Householder 6
Name Arthur Boyde
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1875
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Erith
Birth County Kent
Householder 7
Name Ernest Boyde
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1877
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Bexley
Birth County Kent
Householder 8
Name Walter Boyde
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1879
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Sidcup
Birth County Kent
Householder 9
Name Edith Boyde
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Sidcup
Birth County Kent

Joanne

Joanne Report 15 Sep 2011 20:38

GillianMac, I think you are right about taking on the name thankyou.

Maryb. does that mean Charles Quart had no marital connection to Sarah Boyde and was a neighbour?

Struggling to get me head rount it all lol!!

Thank you all so much.

Mary

Mary Report 15 Sep 2011 20:36

1911 115 Birkbeck Road Sidcup.
Sarah Boyde widow
with her is William Shipman 1897,written as nephew but that is beacuse he son James W Foster has filled it in.

Maryb.

Perchino

Perchino Report 15 Sep 2011 20:31

The surname Boyde looks as though it has Isle of Man connections.

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 15 Sep 2011 20:24

1871 Margate Coast Guard Station
James Foster 35 b Ross Devon
Sarah E Foster 25 wife b Dartford
James W Foster 5 b dartford
Alice m Foster 3 b Queenboro
Alfred 6 mths b WEstgate

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Sep 2011 20:22

1871
Name: Alice M Foster
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Foster
Mother's Name: Sarah E Foster
Gender: Female
Where born: Queenborough, Kent, England
Civil parish: Margate
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Thanet
Sub-registration district: Margate
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 132
Piece: 991
Folio: 35
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
James Foster 35
Sarah E Foster 25
James W Foster 5
Alice M Foster 3
Alfred Foster 6 Months



Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cox Jane Sheppey 2a 1341
FOSTER James Sheppey 2a 1341
Whiffin Sarah Emma Sheppey 2a 1341
Wiseman James Sheppey 2a 1341

Mary

Mary Report 15 Sep 2011 20:19

The 1891 census has been mistranscribed.
Charle Quart
Ann wife of above at 15 western Cottages.

16,Western Cottages
Sarah Boyde married.
Son James W Foster1866 Dartford.
Daughter Ellen B Foster 1872.

1871 Margate Kent D2.25
James Foster 1836 Ross Devon
Sarah E 1846 South Pool Kent(She married William Boyde 1874)
James W Foster 1866 off 1891 census.

1881 all children named Boyde but actually some are Fosters

Maryb

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 15 Sep 2011 20:10

1881 Foots Cray Kent
William Boyde 44 Labourer b Wokingham
Sarah Boyde 37 wife b Dartford
James W Boyde 15 Errand boy b dartfoed
Alice M Boyde 13 b Queenboro
ELLEN Boyde 7 b Margate
Arthur Boyde 6 b Erith
Ernest Boyde 4 b Bexley
Walter 2 b Sidcup
Edith 2 mths b Sidcup

Looks as if Ellen took stepfathers name on her mothers marriage?

Perchino

Perchino Report 15 Sep 2011 20:07

Reuben's birth?

Name Reuben Shipman
Year of Registration 1861
Quarter of Registration Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Lewisham
Registration County London
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 1D
Volume Page 682

Joanne

Joanne Report 15 Sep 2011 20:05

Thanks everyone, Perchino yes thats the census record I was looking at.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Sep 2011 20:01

??

Name: William Boyde
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Spouse Name: Sarah Foster
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 23 Jun 1874
Parish: St Alphege, Greenwich
County: Kent
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: Edward Boyde
Spouse Father Name: William Whiffen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Sep 2011 19:58

1901 this one is a widow
Name: Ellen Shipman
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Bognor, Sussex, England - does not say Bognor on image

Civil parish: Arundel
Ecclesiastical parish: Arundel St Nicholas
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: East Preston
Sub-registration district: Arundel
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 963
Folio: 50
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Ayling 35
Alice Maud Ayling 33
Ellen Shipman 29



Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AYLING George E Preston 2b 780
Carpenter Alfred East Preston 2b 780
Foster Alice Maud E. Preston 2b 780
Robson Margaret Annie E. Preston 2b 780

Perchino

Perchino Report 15 Sep 2011 19:50

This might help:

** Kent Online Parish Clerk ** - Foots Cray Parish - Records ...
17 Jan 2007 ... Home of the Kent Online Parish Clerks providing free family history, genealogy information and record transcripts for your personal research.

www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/Foots%20Cray.html -

Perchino

Perchino Report 15 Sep 2011 19:41

There are 4 possible Arthur Shipmans on the 1901 Census. Is this the one you are interested in:

1901 Census Household Record Address 16 Western Cottages
Civil Parish Foots Cray
Rural District Bromley
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Johns
Parliamentary Borough or Division Dartford
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Kent
Householder 1
Name Edith Boyde
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 18
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Sidcup
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Foster James Boyde
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 35
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Gardeners Labourer
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Dartford
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Harriett Boyde
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Sidcup
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Sarah Boyde
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Widow
Age Last Birthday 53
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Dartford
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Walter Boyde
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 20
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Plumber
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Sidcup
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Henry Foster
Relation to Head of Family Lodger
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 43
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Plasterer
Employment Status
Where Born Sussex Hastings
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Arthur Shipman
Relation to Head of Family Grand Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Plumstead
Language
Infirmity

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Sep 2011 19:39

Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BOYDE William Greenwich 1d 1168
Foster Sarah Greenwich 1d 1168
Haselden Thomas Harnden Greenwich 1d 1168
Haselden Thomas Haroden Greenwich 1d 1168
Hatt Frances Mary Greenwich 1d 1168


Just having a look around


1891??
Name: Ellen B Quart
[Ellen B Foster]
[Ellen B Boyde]
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Quart
Gender: Female
Where born: Margate, Kent, England

Civil parish: Foots Cray
Ecclesiastical parish: Sidcup
Town: Foots Cray
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Chislehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 633
Folio: 36
Page Number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Quart 52
Ann Quart 62
Sarah Quart 43
James W Quart 25
Alice M Quart 23
Ellen B Quart 19
Walter H Quart 11
Edith E Quart 9
Harriet Quart 7

Joanne

Joanne Report 15 Sep 2011 19:29

Hi All,

I am rather confused and wondered if anyone can help.

I have pulled up the 1901 census for Arthur Shipman born 1896/ 1897. He has a father Reuben Shipman born 1861 and mother Ellen Beatrice Foster born 1872. Married 1893 in Bromley Kent

On the census Arthur Shipman is living with Sarah Boyde born 1848 and is listed as the Grandson. Niether Reuben or Ellen are listed on the census, but a Henry Foster is as a lodger born 1858.

I then looked at the previous 1891 census and found Reuben Shipman 1861 living with a son also called Reuben aged 1 year. I am trying to track down the relationship between the census records but cannot find any birth, death or other census records for Sarah Boyde and Henry Foster or Ellen Foster.