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joseph hare hair 1746

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Pauline

Pauline Report 15 Sep 2011 20:41

parents or siblings help come to a halt with this one
thanks pauline

Kim

Kim Report 15 Sep 2011 20:44

Joseph Hare - where? :-D :-D

Derek

Derek Report 15 Sep 2011 20:55

Joseph Hare..baptised 17.11.1745 St. Botolph's Bishopgate london..son of Joseph and Tabitha............or you can have three in lincolnshire and one in Bedford........you see the problem.......as Kim suggests.where would help.

Derek.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Sep 2011 21:06

Husband
Joseph Hare Pedigree


Birth: About 1746 Of, Boston, Lincoln, England
Christening:
Marriage: 13 JAN 1771 Boston, Lincoln, England
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
Ann Taylor Pedigree


Birth: About 1750 Of, Boston, Lincoln, England
Christening:
Marriage: 13 JAN 1771 Boston, Lincoln, England


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Sep 2011 10:55

message from poster


DONT THINK THIS IS HIM AS HE MARRIED ELIZABETH KINGHAM 26 OCT 1771 IN ST MARY THE VIRGIN IN PIRTON BEDFORDSHIRE, THANKS PAULINE HARE


Pauline - you have now marked my posting as "answered" which means no one will now bother to look at this posting!!! can you rectify that and as I said, always reply on here, not by messages :-)

Mike *

Mike * Report 16 Sep 2011 10:59

Familysearch has it as 24th and Hertfordshire.
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Joseph Hair --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages:
Spouse: Elizabeth Kingham
Marriage: 24 OCT 1771 Pirton, Hertford, England


Can I ask,,,, how do you know he was born 1746 ?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Sep 2011 11:00

JOSEPH HARE Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 24 FEB 1742 Lower Gravenhurst, Bedford, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN HARE Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Sep 2011 11:02

spouse:Elizabeth Kingham

groom's name: Joseph Hair
bride's name: Elizabeth Kingham
marriage date: 1771
marriage place: Pirton, Herts, Eng
indexing project (batch) number: M04819-2
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1040655

Mike *

Mike * Report 16 Sep 2011 11:02

Heretforshire ?????....



JOSEPH HARE --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 29 JUN 1740

Christening: 27 JUL 1740 St Mary, Hitchin, Hertford, England

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Parents:
Father: THOS. HARE
Mother: ANN



.
As you can see, the possibilities are endless.
You need to give us some definite facts about this guy.


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Sep 2011 11:04

???

parents:John Hare,? Sarah

name: Joseph Hare
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 24 Feb 1742
baptism/christening place: LOWER GRAVENHURST,BEDFORD,ENGLAND
father's name: John Hare
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: P00344-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 88005

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Sep 2011 11:09

Elizabeth Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 DEC 1751 Pirton, Hertford, England


Parents:
Father: Richard Kingham Family
Mother: Ann

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Kim

Kim Report 16 Sep 2011 11:09

Pauline, welcome to the boards.

There is a very good website www.pirtonhistory.org.uk, which I assume you have seen. Your Joseph's 1771 marriage to Elizabeth Kingham is on there and the births of his children and information relating to his service in the militia. It does not, however, include any baptism for Joseph or of any siblings.

A further complication is that Pirton is very near the border with Bedfordshire and the surname Hare (and variants) is found there as well. I've checked the freereg site, and the parish register collection on FMP (only marriages and burials are on there). I've also looked on familysearch.org and the only likely Joseph I've found was actually baptised on 27 July 1740 in Hitchin (next to Pirton), son of Thomas and Ann. Given that children were conventionally named after their grandparents and your Joseph named two of his children Thomas and Anne, I think it's POSSIBLE that he is the one - ages did tend to be misrepresented, either intentionally or not. If he is the correct Joseph, some siblings are shown on familysearch.org

So sorry I can't offer anything more positive.

Best wishes
Kim in Hull

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Sep 2011 11:11

??

JOSEPH HARE Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 JUL 1753 Henlow, Bedford, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN HARE Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Sep 2011 11:15

Kim is right in what she says. Don't forget most people in those years could'nt read or write and they did'nt have birthdays like we do today, but they did have naming patterns.


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JOSEPH HARE Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth: 29 JUN 1740

Christening: 27 JUL 1740 St Mary, Hitchin, Hertford, England

Parents:
Father: THOS. HARE Family
Mother: ANN


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.



AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Sep 2011 11:22


This interesting Anglo-Gaelic medieval surname, spelt as Hare and Hair, has a number of possible origins. In England the first and most likely origin is from the pre 7th century word "hara" - the hare, and as such it is a nickname for a messenger or fast runner. This is almost certainly the case with the first known recording (see below). Occasionally the name can be topographical or locational, there are several places called Hare. In this case the derivation is from the ancient word "haer", meaning "stony ground", and therefore describing one at such a place. In Scotland and Ireland when the name is not imported from England, it is an anglicized spelling of the surname "O'hir", a nickname meaning the descendant of the fierce one! The very first recording anywhere is 12th Century (see below), whilst an early English example is that of Johannes Hare in the 1379 Poll Tax Rolls for Yorkshire. The surname first appears in Scotland in 1366, William Hare being a burgess of Edinburgh, although in 1430 one Patrick is recorded as Hayre, Hair, and Hare, in the same charter! An interesting namebearer, recorded in the "Dictionary of National Biography", was Sir Nicholas Hare. He was a judge during the reign of King Henry V111, as well as being an M.P. for Lancaster, being knighted in 1537. The first recorded spelling of the family name is believed to be that of Walter le Hare, which was dated 1166, in the Pipe Rolls of the county of Surrey. This was during the reign of King Henry 11, known as "The Builder of Churches", 1154 - 1189. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling

Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Hair#ixzz1Y6qp1Srh

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Sep 2011 16:08

Pauline - reply on here or we'll come knocking on your door!!! :-) :-D

try clicking on the "answered" bit and see if it recrtifies itself

Ann X

Linda

Linda Report 16 Sep 2011 20:56

ann you do a lot to help people i was just browsing and thought this looks interesting as hare was my maiden name

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Sep 2011 22:03

unusual name isnlt it!!! Pauline had better turn up here or I shall go looking for her - be afraid Pauline - be very afraid!!!!! :-D :-D :-D :-D

Pauline

Pauline Report 17 Sep 2011 06:32

SORRY NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO USE THIS SITE
I WILL GET BETTER THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
I WILL TAKE ALL INFO AND AND HAVE A LOOK SORRY ANN TRIED CLICKING ON ANSWERED BUT WILL DO NOTHING THANKS FOR EVERY ONES INPUT PAULINE,

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Sep 2011 11:55

well done Pauline and no need for apologies!!! you'll soon get the hang of things - we all made mistakes when we started out :-) <3