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Help needed please with elusive ancestor.

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Flick

Flick Report 17 Sep 2011 12:06

Unless Newman eventually married .....somewhere in the world.............he didn't have any legitimate descendants,

Flick

Flick Report 17 Sep 2011 12:04

Births Jun 1856 (>99%)
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Bennett Thomas Kettering 3b 158

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Births Mar 1858 (>99%)
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Bennett William Charles Kettering 3b 161

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Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
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BENNETT Charles Kettering 3b 150

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Sep 2011 12:04

Just been checking scotlandspeople

No matches for a death in the name of Newman Seaton

DottyAnn

DottyAnn Report 17 Sep 2011 12:03

Just seen your last posts, fully agree, especially as the ages of the 'Seaton' children on the 1861 match the ages of the 3 Bennett boys in 1871. Wonder where Newman went, then?

Thank you all so much for finding the above, your experience clearly shows.
regards
Ann

Flick

Flick Report 17 Sep 2011 11:59

Name: Rowena Cross
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Kettering
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 106
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1891

Name: Rowena Cross
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Northants, Desborough

Civil parish: Desborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
Town: Desborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England


Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Rothwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1218
Folio: 31
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Rudolf J Hief 31
John Cross 52
Rowena Cross 52
Louisa E Bennet 5 ******************

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2011 11:59

It does look like they never married and the children werent his, They parted and maybe he emigrated too as theres no further record of him on the England/Wales records

DottyAnn

DottyAnn Report 17 Sep 2011 11:49

Thanks Flick and Shirley, you've given me something to think about

Flick

Flick Report 17 Sep 2011 11:45

Nice one, GB...........

As I suggested earlier......Rowena clearly never married Seaton

Flick

Flick Report 17 Sep 2011 11:44

Thomas Marlow Bennett

Christening: 15 SEP 1856 Desborough, Northampton, England

Father: William Bennett Family
Mother: Rowana


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Source Information:
Batch No.: I006384

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Sep 2011 11:43

1871 I keeplooking at this family
Name: Rowena Cross
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Cross
Gender: Female
Where born: Desborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Desborough
Town: Desborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Rothwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 1505
Folio: 70
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
John Cross 32
Rowena Cross 32
Charles Bennett 10


Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
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BENNETT Rowena Kettering 3b 299
CROSS John Kettering 3b 299
HOBSON Mary Kettering 3b 299
Wade Joseph Kettering 3b 299

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2011 11:40

No problem Betty. i know all about senior moments too lol


so heres Thomas still in the same area
SEATON, Thomas
Registration District: West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 6B
Page No: 339





DottyAnn

DottyAnn Report 17 Sep 2011 11:38

I found the 1851 details, looks as tho they were all in cottages, maybe some sort of settlement whilst building a railroad?
Could William Bennett maybe be a very bad mistranscription of Newman Seaton?? The marriage would fit in with age of Thomas Seaton,5 in 1861. Will have to check 1861 for a William Bennett with wife Rowena.
Ann

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2011 11:36

Cant see anymore Would suggest you check Scotlands People

Flick

Flick Report 17 Sep 2011 11:30

1871

I think this may confirm my speculation

Name: William Bennett
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Desborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Desborough
Town: Desborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Rothwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 1505
Folio: 68
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Manton 66
Rowena Manton 66
Thomas Bennett 14
William Bennett 13

Flick

Flick Report 17 Sep 2011 11:26

For info only........children shown on 1861 all born Desborough

DottyAnn

DottyAnn Report 17 Sep 2011 11:22

Hi Shirley
You have the correct Newman in 1841 and 1861. Thomas age 62 in 1861 was his father who I think died that same year.Where did they all go after 1861? Oldest sister Elizabeth married in Australia in 1854 so emmigration is a possibility but I haven't found anything to substantiate that.
Ann

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2011 11:20

FMP is picking him up on the 1851

SODD, Thomas Head Married M 47 1804 Ag Labourer
Burton Coggles
Lincolnshire VIEW
SODD, Jane Wife Married F 46 1805 Ag Labourer's Wife
Grantham VIEW
SODD, Betsy Daughter Unmarried F 9 1842 Scholar
Burton Coggles VIEW
SODD, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 4 1847 Scholar
Burton Coggles VIEW
SODD, Catherine Daughter Unmarried F 10 1841 Scholar
Burton Coggles VIEW
HARRIS, Benjamin Inmate Unmarried M 29 1822 Rail Labourer
Buckinghamshire VIEW
BARRET, James Inmate Unmarried M 19 1832 Rail Labourer
Buckinghamshire VIEW
LAFFERY, Thomas Inmate Unmarried M 22 1829 Rail Labourer
Buckinghamshire VIEW
STAG, Henry Inmate Unmarried M 29 1822 Rail Labourer
Barbridge
Wiltshire VIEW
SEATON, Newman Inmate Unmarried M 24 1827 Rail Labourer
Buckinghamshire VIEW
MENDHEAW, John Inmate Unmarried M 45 1806 Bricklayer On Railway
Norwich VIEW
MOORE, Joseph Inmate Unmarried M 37 1814 Ag Labourer
Burton Coggles
Lincolnshire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2102 Folio:
135 Page:
33

Registration District:
Grantham Sub District:
Colsterworth Enumeration District:
14 & 15 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Burton Coggles Municipal Borough:
Address:
14, Cottage, Burton Coggles County

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Sep 2011 11:18

Maybe he went to Scotland or emigrated, cant see anything after 1861

Flick

Flick Report 17 Sep 2011 11:17

Speculating about the wife's identity..........

1841?

Name: Rowena Munton
[Rowena Manton]
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Female
Where born: Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Desborough
Hundred: Rothwell
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England


Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Rothwell
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 809
Book: 5
Folio: 15
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Munton 70
Charles Munton 35
Rowena Munton 35
Harriott Munton 15
Ann Munton 12
Elizabeth Munton 10
Rowena Munton 3
Charles Munton 1 MO

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1851

Name: Rowena Marton
[Rowena Manton]
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Marton
Mother's Name: Rowena Marton
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Desbro, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Desborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England


Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Kettering
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 1744
Folio: 412
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Marton 46
Rowena Marton 46
John Guins 24
Ann Guins 22
Rowena Marton 12
Thomas Marton 7
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Marriage for the above............

William Bennett Oct-Nov-Dec 1855 Kettering Northamptonshire
Rowena Manton Oct-Nov-Dec 1855 Kettering Northamptonshire

Either it's completely the wrong woman.............or she dumped Mr Bennett, and moved in with Mr Seaton

DottyAnn

DottyAnn Report 17 Sep 2011 11:04

Shirley
Sorry about that. Have just checked, he was baptised in 1827, don't know why I put 1834, senior moment, I guess!