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GlitterBaby.Jan.Flick and Shirley
Thank you all very much for your help.
I have just put everything in order,and I now have a much better idea of when/where he was born and details about him.
Thank you!

Glitterbaby
Yes,that's the marriage..
I forgot to add draper to his list of occupations!

Flick
Thank you..that would explain why the census says Cumberland.I had no idea there was one in Wales..I think it seems pretty safe to say he was Welsh then

Shirley
Thanks...I wonder if Sarah was his mother perhaps remarried...?

Flick
Well,in 1861 he was a policeman and in 1871 a laundreyman...so he seems to have changed jobs a bit

Do you mean this marriage ?

Name: Simon Rees - draper
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Spouse Name: Hannah Gosden
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 03 Feb 1861
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Rees - farmer
Spouse Father Name: William Gosden - coachman

Jany

As advised - GR do NOT have records, nor do they transcribe them.

There are far better options than GR for census searches..............

Jan
Thank you.That is him on the 1861..
The other 1851 census could be him.. i just looked for people the same age as he gave in 1861/71 but of course,it probably isn't exactly right.

Flick
Thank you for the 1841 info..there don't seem to be many Simon Reeses,so looks like that is him

The confusion with regards to his birthplace may arise from the fact that there is a PENRITH in Cumberland...............as well as the lesser-known one in Pembrokeshire

If he was in the Workhouse, and gave his birthplace as Penrith, it would be safe to think that it would have been assumed that he meant the one in Cumberland

Genes dont actually hold records they redirect you to anoither site although you wont be aware f it !

1841
Name: Simon Rees
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Where born: Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil parish: Clydey
Hundred: Kilgenan
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newcastle in Emlyn
Sub-registration district: Kenarth
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1447
Book: 3
Folio: 42
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Name
Simon Rees 11


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1447; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Clydey; County: Pembrokeshire; Enumeration District: 18; Folio: 42; Page: 12; Line: 18;

he seems to be in the same household as Sarah Watts aged 45 of Ind means ,and poss her daughter Elizabeth aged 3

1861 image is RISE

Occupation in 1851 for the one in Aberdare is GROCER - Shopman

Does this tally with your info about him?

Flick
I use the GR census,I wondered if it was transcribed correctly..or do they just copy it from another site?

1861 England Census

Name: Simon Rise
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Rise
Gender: Male
Where born: South Wales

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Bedford St Matthew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regents Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 266
Piece: 94
Folio: 89
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Simon Rise 31
Hannah Rise 30
William Rise 5
Eliza Rise 3 Where born: Old Kent Rd, Surrey, England

Jan
He married Hannah Gosden in 1861 Lambeth.
She and their children are with him in 1861.
1871 she is alone and Simon seems to be in the workhouse infirmary.He died in 1872.

in 1841, he is living with.......

Sarah Watts 45
Elizabeth Watts 3

Both b. Pembrokeshire

1851another poss

Name: Simon Rees
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanselio, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Aberdare
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandaff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Piece: 2460
Folio: 221
Page Number: 44
Household schedule number: 155
Household Members: Name Age
Lewelyn Lewelyns 41
Ann Lewelyns 39
John Evans 42
Simon Rees 25

Glitterbaby
That's the one I think is mine

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