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I have found this record for Sarah Morgan/Sarah Turner on ancestry

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Name:
Mrs Sarah Turner
Father:
Isaac Benjamin Morgan
Mother:
Elizabeth Morgan
Baptism:
13 Feb 1854 - Camden Town All Saints, Middlesex, England
Birth:
abt 1854 - England

I dont understand why her baptism record has Morgan, but then the word Turner underneath which was the name she had when she married.
Did they put there married names on later?
Also the address is 2 pleasant row, all my Turners i have located are in Pleasant Row aswell does this mean they were neighbours?
Also there is a William Morgan underneath with the same parents.

Many thanks
Bev :-S

It looks as though she was baptised after she was married. Just looked at the original image and it gives her birth date as 9th November 1828. William born 1824 was baptised on the same day.

Mentions 9 Nov 1828 on the image so she must have been baptised after her marriage

Hello

thanks for the reply
, I wonder why that was my Sarah Morgan was born about 1825 in St Pancras so maybe this was done then after she married
, it looks like William i guess her brother was done at the same time.

thanks Bev

This looks like her baptism from the IGI. It looks as though she was baptised as an adult (gives her birth as 1828 and baptism as 1854):-

SARAH MRS TURNER
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
09 NOV 1828
Christening:
13 FEB 1854 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ISAAC BENJAMIN MORGAN
Mother: ELIZABETH

Kath. x

Might Isaac have married before....

??

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ISAAC BENJAMIN MORGAN Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH BEADLE Family
Marriage:
20 JUN 1822 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

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ISAAC BENJAMIN MORGAN Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
15 OCT 1802
Christening:
05 DEC 1802 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOEL MORGAN Family
Mother: MARY

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

thanks

I have no idea if Isaac married before i am struggling a bit with this, cant see the wood for the trees!

cant seem to find much for Issac or his wife elizabeth and now possibly another wife Sarah etc

any help is really appreciated

thanks bev :-)

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JOEL MORGAN Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY BEADELL Family
Marriage:
25 JAN 1795 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Just looking to see if i can see any children baptised with parents Benjamin and Sarah between 1822 and 1828.

trying to find if and when his first wife died

:-)

this looks like her marriage ?

Marriages Dec 1851
Morgan Sarah S Pancras 1 351
Turner Joseph St Pancras 1 351
( among names on page )

I wonder whether there was a new vicar who insisted that parents be baptised before children could be for example ?

another explanation for late baptism is in contemplation of death, the brother of an ancestor of mine was baptised after marriage when it was clear ( I imagine ) that he was dying of tuberculosis as he did within a few weeks

Isaac Benjamin and Elizabeth had children baptised closer to their births


Birth/Christening, 1820 - 1860, London Greater, England, British Isles
Father: Isaac Morgan, Mother: Elizabeth
International Genealogical Index / British Isles

1. SARAH MRS TURNER - Gender: Female Birth: 09 NOV 1828
2. SARAH MRS TURNER - Gender: Female Christening: 13 FEB 1854 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

3. BENJAMIN MORGAN - Gender: Male Birth: 25 JUL 1845
4. BENJAMIN MORGAN - Gender: Male Christening: 31 AUG 1845 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

5. THOMAS MORGAN - Gender: Male Birth: 14 AUG 1838
6. THOMAS MORGAN - Gender: Male Christening: 02 SEP 1838 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

7. JESSE MORGAN - Gender: Male Birth: 11 JUL 1847
8. JESSE MORGAN - Gender: Male Christening: 01 AUG 1847 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

9. WILLIAM MORGAN - Gender: Male Birth: 08 MAR 1824
10. WILLIAM MORGAN - Gender: Male Christening: 13 FEB 1854 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

11. ROBERT MORGAN - Gender: Male Birth: 02 AUG 1841
12. ROBERT MORGAN - Gender: Male Christening: 29 AUG 1841 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

13. JOSEPH MORGAN - Gender: Male Birth: 29 JUL 1843
14. JOSEPH MORGAN - Gender: Male Christening: 31 AUG 1845 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England


I suspect that perhaps Sarah and William were children of that first marriage and had escaped baptism somehow ... while the others were children of the marriage to Elizabeth ... ?


Isaac and Elizabeth in 1851 in St Pancras in Pleasant Row

Isaac B Morgan 48 general dealer
Elizabeth Morgan 38
Joseph Morgan 6
George I Morgan 28
William Morgan 26

he is considerably older than her ...

I can't find them in 1841


edit here they are in St Pancras in Pleasant Row

Benjamin Morgan 35 green grocer
Elizabeth Morgan 25
George Morgan 15
William Morgan 13
Sarah Morgan 5 ?
Thomas Morgan 3
James Dewberry 15

cant seem to find any deaths for first wife mary morgan nee beadle :-(

that's Sarah Beadle no ? :-)

it makes sense that Sarah was her child, named for her

then another child Sarah named for the first child, it does happen !

Sarah born 1828, William born 1824, to that marriage ... but Sarah reared by Elizabeth ... ?


edit

also

Birth/Christening, 1820 - 1860, London Greater, England, British Isles
Father: Isaac Morgan, Mother: Sarah

1. BENJAMIN MORGAN - Gender: Male Birth: 19 NOV 1832
2. BENJAMIN MORGAN - Gender: Male Christening: 27 DEC 1832 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England

Yes, it's Sarah Morgan..nee Beadle........not Mary. :-)

I can't find Sarah (Morgan) and Joseph Turner in 1861 but this looks like them in 1871 in St Pancras ?

Joseph Turner 48 bird cage maker born Bridport Dorset
Sarah Turner 40 ditto born St Pancras
Alice Turner 19
Rosina Turner 16
Clara Turner 14
Joseph Turner 11 born Camden Town ( for 1861 census ? )
Henry Turner 5
George Turner 2


if so then baptism was not in contemplation of death ;)

Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH BEADLE Family
Marriage:
20 JUN 1822 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England

to Isacc Benjamin Morgan

cant seem to find a death for her before he married Elizabeth.

many thanks for all your help it really is appreciated <3