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Arthur French bn 1890 Bulwell nottingham

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Susan

Susan Report 1 Oct 2011 08:19

Hi Everyone

Can some kind soul find me Arthur French bn 1890 Bulwell Nottingham in the 1911 census please.
His Father was Charles French bn Hertsfordshire Coal miner and his mother was Mary J Bn Nottingham.

There address in 1901 was No 8 Horton St. Nott

Thank you Suex

Gee

Gee Report 1 Oct 2011 08:28

FRENCH, Charles Head M 49 1862 Coal Miner Loader Underground Stotbans County Herts VIEW
FRENCH, Mary Jane Wife F 44 1867 Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW
FRENCH, Alfred Son M 14 1897 Erand Boy Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW
FRENCH, Leonard Son M 10 1901 School Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW
FRENCH, Willie Son M 9 1902 School Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW
FRENCH, John Son M 6 1905 School Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW
FRENCH, Mabel Daughter F 3 1908 School Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW
WHEAT, Betsy Mother In Law Widow F 60 1851 Lace Clipper Nottingham Parish Sneinton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
20582 Reference:
RG14PN20582 RG78PN1230 RD430 SD3 ED42 SN98

Registration District:
Nottingham Sub District:
Nottingham North East Enumeration District:
42 Parish:
Nottingham

Address:
8 Hooton St Nottingham


Edit: GB has found him so I have edited this

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Oct 2011 08:32

FRECH, Arthur Single ? 22 1889 Bulwell Nottinghamshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
34995 Reference:
RG14PN34995 RD641 SD20 ED14 SN9999

Registration District:
Sub District:
Enumeration District:
14 Parish:


Address:
Hongkong South China

10TH THE KING'S OWN YORKSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY10TH

It is French on image so will do a name correction

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Oct 2011 08:40

Do you have access to Ancestry ?

WW1 service records

Name: Arthur French
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age at enlistment: 29
Birth Parish: Bulwall
Birth County: Nottingham
Residence: 88 Minetoa St Bullsell Nottingham
Document Year: 1918
Regimental Number: 768779
Regiment Name: Bn London Regt (Artists Rifles)
Number of images: 14


He had previously served in Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry in Hong Kong- service number 9262

Next of kin given as Charles George French - Father

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 1 Oct 2011 08:42

Oops.....deleted.
11 children born, 10 living, 1 had died.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Oct 2011 08:48

Medal Card on Ancestry

Name: Arthur French
Regiment or Corps: London Regiment 28th
Regimental Number: 768779

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Oct 2011 08:51

Pension Record on Ancestry

Name: Arthur French
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Bulwell
Birth County: Nors
Document Year: 1907
Regimental Number: 9262
Regiment Name: Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry
Number of images: 16


Next of kin shows Father Charles and Mother Mary etc.
Address is given as 8 Hooton St

Susan

Susan Report 1 Oct 2011 09:14


Thank You everyone

That is fantastic,just to fill you in a bit Arthur married Nellie Gibson my Oh's Grandmother .
Arthur and Nellie came to OZ in around 1924 after they married 1919.
I have never been able to find there passage even on the National Archives of OZ.
I do have Ancestry that is where I traced him back but could not find him in 1911.
Thankyou all for your help it has been invaluable.

Is there anywhere else that may show there passage to oz .
Traveling with him was
Nellie French bn 1898 Essex
Kenneth Arthur French bn 1921 Essex (Oh's Father )
Nora French bn 1919 Essex.

Agaian Thankyou
Suex

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Oct 2011 09:20

Not got the right sub on FMP to view these records

FRENCH A 1891 M 1926 London Australia Fremantle
FRENCH Dora 1875 F 1926 London Australia Fremantle
FRENCH K 1922 M 1926 London Australia Fremantle
FRENCH N 1897 F 1926 London Australia Fremantle
FRENCH N 1920 F 1926 London Australia Fremantle


Given that 4 names match albeit on initials I would think that Dora might have been a separate traveller

Susan

Susan Report 1 Oct 2011 09:27

Hi GB

Thankyou for that at least I have a year of travel that gives me something to go on .
I don't know of a Dora but all the other names match.

Many Thanks for your help.
Suex :-D

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Oct 2011 09:49

passenger transcript details
Name: Mr A FRENCH
Date of departure: 18 September 1926
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Fremantle, Australia
Passenger destination: Fremantle, Australia

Date of Birth: 1891 (calculated from age)
Age: 35
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Traveller
Passenger recorded on: Page 19 0f 39


The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Master K FRENCH Page 19 of 39
Mrs N FRENCH Page 19 of 39
Miss N FRENCH Page 19 of 39


Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
OTRANTO
146025
Capt H G Staunton
Orient
Australia
26601
12031
1344

(last address in UK, Kennor, Healing,Lincs.)


Chris :)

(also from that above address, Mr WA Pinney (26. Farmer), Mrs E (20) Master A (4mth)


Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%)
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Pinney William A Gibson Grimsby 7a 1484


Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%)
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Gibson Emily C Pinney Grimsby 7a 1584


Susan

Susan Report 1 Oct 2011 10:53

Hi Chris

What can I say but thankyou so very much ,you have no idea how long I have been searching for this info
Can you tell me what site you used please.

And that extra info on the Pinneys it all ties in with what I know from this end.
They all,came out together to do farming in the lower South West of Western Australia.
Emily Gibson was Nellies Sister.

Again Thankyou so much.
Suex :-D :-D :-D

Susan

Susan Report 1 Oct 2011 12:06


Hi
I have just finished reading the miltary record of Arthur French bn 1889( his first stint that is no 9262 Kings own Yorkshire Infantry) on reading this it has thrown us a big shock it appears he was married before he married Nellie .
It states on his record that his first wife and child died in a fire in Hong Kong,the family has had no knowledge of this what so ever.

How do I find more details of ths union and Fire ,I would dearly love to find this for the family anyone have any Ideas as to where to start with this one .
Suex

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Oct 2011 12:08

FMP should have overseas Military births. Sadly my sub does not cover those records

There is an entry for Ronald French born 1901 Hong Kong but have no idea if connected or not

BUT at the moment not finding a marriage in Hong Kong

Susan

Susan Report 1 Oct 2011 12:13


Thanks GB I don't have FMP only Ancestry unfortunately I don't have World cover.

It is such an intriguing story I just have to find out somehow,I won't sleep a wink tonight...this darn Genealogy it really gets you in big time.

Suex

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Oct 2011 12:15

Is he shown as widower on the marriage to Nellie ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Oct 2011 12:20

Rule out that 1901 birth as Arthur did not enlist until 1907

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Oct 2011 12:34

FMP has this death entry but no idea if a child or adult

FRENCH George Corps: King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry 1915

Susan

Susan Report 1 Oct 2011 12:42


No GB .....on his marriage cert to Nellie he is down as 28 and a Bachelor living at 88 Minuerta St it all ties in lovely with What has been found and on his Military records it is the same Address.

I don't think there marriage was very good not much closeness between them so the story goes.

Thankyou for your interset GB so I guess you have had the bug longer than me then.
Suex

Susan

Susan Report 2 Oct 2011 05:17

Hi

That Death Rego for George looks interesting it may have been his child .
He left his first stint in the Army 1912 and stayed on in Hong Kong as a Chinese Labour Manager I suspect this is when he married and had a child all be for them to die in a fire in Hong Kong.

I have found Arthur returning to the Uk In 1918, you guessed it back to 88 Minurta St. Nott
He rejoined the Army (Short Service)Again in 1918 left 1920

Can anyone with World Ancestry find his possible marriage in Hong Kong .

Suex

I know it is a lot to ask ,Appreciate any help