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Mary Dobson was Malcolm 1916 Huddersfield??

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Kate

Kate Report 4 Oct 2011 21:01

My Father (Frank Dobson) beleived he may of been evacuated between 1942 and 44 to Teign Village near Chudleigh, Devon. He never went back to Plymouth, where he was born with no further contact with any biological family. He has only had his birth certificate recently from which we were able to trace his family tree. But we have drawn a blank when it comes to his birth parents Frank Dobson and Mary Malcolm.

While researching the tree we found that nearly all his family are from Huddersfield Yorkshire, his parents were married there in 1938 and then moved to plymouth as his father was in the navy. I have Mary and Franks Marriage certificate and Frank Dobson (09 april 1913) his birth certificate

I have exhausted most avenues and I know that my father would just like to know good or bad where he comes from and why he never went back. His "foster" parents were not the most outspoken of people and they had other evacuees form what he can remember.

anyone with any info i would be so grateful its such a puzzle to me and him and im sure a member of family somewhere will know something. I am a novice but also really keen and can see myself addicted !!

Thanks in advance

Kate Dobson

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 4 Oct 2011 21:06

Hi Kate,

You say that you have Frank Dobson (born 1913) birth certificate, what does it say on it for mothers name?

I have just re-read your posting, and I'm a little unsure what information you are looking for!!!

Lynne

patchem

patchem Report 4 Oct 2011 21:08

Frank's(1913) birth parents from the birth certificate?
Thank-you.

Added:
Births Jun 1913
Dobson Frank Kenyon Huddersfield 9a 541

?
Marriages Dec 1897
xxx Dobson Joe Huddersfield 9a 565
xxx KENYON Clara Huddersfield 9a 565
Plumb Ellen Huddersfield 9a 565
Waring Fred Huddersfield 9a 565

Andrew

Andrew Report 4 Oct 2011 21:10

From their marriage cert, what are the details for fathers of Frank and Mary?
Also how old was Mary?


One possible for her birth

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
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Malcolm Mary Costello Huddersfield 9a 464


Andy

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 4 Oct 2011 21:11

Two Frank's are showing Jun qtr 1913, one born in Huddersfield area and the other in Hull area.

If Frank was born in Huddersfield then his mothers maiden name was Kenyon, likewise if Frank was born in Hull area his mothers maiden name was Waddington.

If you can confirm which is correct then we may be able to go a little further back for you!

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Dobson Frank Kenyon Huddersfield 9a 541
Dobson Frank Waddington Hull 9d 620

1911 census showing Joe & Clara Dobson and family, before Frank was born:
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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DOBSON, Joe Head Married M 36 1875 Rag Grinder Kirkheaton Yorks
DOBSON, Clara Wife Married 13 years F 34 1877 Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, Jane Daughter F 13 1898 School Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, Alice Daughter F 6 1905 Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, John Thomas Son M 4 1907 Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, Nelly Daughter F 2 1909 Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, Olive Daughter F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Yorks Huddersfield
KENYON, Agnes Mother In Law Widow F 54 1857 Yorks Huddersfield
KENYON, William Brother Single M 30 1881 Cotton Piecer Yorks Huddersfield

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26301 Reference:
RG14PN26301 RG78PN1521 RD495 SD8 ED16 SN89

Registration District:
Huddersfield Sub District:
Huddersfield Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Huddersfield

Address:
22 Leeds Road North Huddersfield County:
Yorkshire (West riding)



Lynne

Kate

Kate Report 4 Oct 2011 21:11

HI

Joe Dobson and Clara Dobson formely Kenyon. 22 Leeds Road North Huddersfield

Im pretty sure i managed to find both on census etc.

I made my tree on ancestry and tried to upload to here, however when i did some dates got mixed up as there are over 50 people on it it would be a struggle.

Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 4 Oct 2011 21:14

1911
DOBSON, Joe Head Married M 36 1875 Rag Grinder Kirkheaton Yorks
DOBSON, Clara Wife Married 13 years F 34 1877 Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, Jane Daughter F 13 1898 School Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, Alice Daughter F 6 1905 Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, John Thomas Son M 4 1907 Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, Nelly Daughter F 2 1909 Yorks Huddersfield
DOBSON, Olive Daughter F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Yorks Huddersfield
KENYON, Agnes Mother In Law Widow F 54 1857 Yorks Huddersfield
KENYON, William Brother Single M 30 1881 Cotton Piecer Yorks Huddersfield

RG number: RG14 Piece: 26301 Reference: RG14PN26301 RG78PN1521 RD495 SD8 ED16 SN89
Registration District: Huddersfield Sub District: Huddersfield Enumeration District: 16 Parish: Huddersfield
Address: 22 Leeds Road North Huddersfield County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Kate

Kate Report 4 Oct 2011 21:14

Its the Frank Dobson Born 1913 who married Mary Malcolm in 1938 thats the people im searching for. After the amrriage certificate my trail goes cold!

Thats the census record i have thank you though. thank god for censues, going back was fine its going forward after them lol

Thanks

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 4 Oct 2011 21:16

Hi Kate,

Are you looking for Frank and Mary befrore or after their marriage?

Lynne

patchem

patchem Report 4 Oct 2011 21:16

?
Frank Dobson
Birth Date: abt 1913
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1967
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Huddersfield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2b
Page: 743a

patchem

patchem Report 4 Oct 2011 21:18

There does not appear to be another Dobson/Malcolm birth.

Have you got Mary's exact birth date?
Thanks

Kate

Kate Report 4 Oct 2011 21:21

after their marriage, on my fathers birth certificate it shows their address as 52 lorrimor avenue plymouth. Frank born 1913 shows as a leading seaman in the royal navy 13996. without a confirmed death i cant get his record from the navy.

i guessed the possible death above i suppose i have to order another death certificate?

re mary i dont on her marriage certificate it shows her 22 (marriage date april 23rd 1938

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 4 Oct 2011 21:22

Several death registrations for Mary Dobson born 1916 (if correct birth shown above), 3 of which were registered in Yorkshire, two in Lancashire and one Cumberland, which is now Cumbria.

Lynne

Mike *

Mike * Report 4 Oct 2011 21:23

Just for reference.
Mary was Mary F

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Marriages Jun 1938 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dobson Frank -Malcolm -Huddersfield 9a 1042
Malcolm Mary F - Dobson- Huddersfield 9a 1042

Kate

Kate Report 4 Oct 2011 21:29

thanks, i suppose the only way is to order all certificates?

i have another birth certificate which i ordered which i believe could be another son?
born 13 august 1940 shows as john dobson mother Mary formely malcolm and frank dobson same Royal Naval number 13996
address 168 leeds road huddersfield. i think he may have died young but i havent confirmed with a death certificate?

Gee

Gee Report 4 Oct 2011 21:32

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about Joe Dobson
Name: Joe Dobson
Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 22
Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Oct 1897
Parish: Moldgreen, Christchurch
Father's Name: George Dobson
Spouse's Name: Clara Henyon
Spouse's Father's Name: John Thomas Henyon

Kate

Kate Report 4 Oct 2011 21:48

thank u for the help. If anyone has any other info i will keep track of this thread.

Thanks Kate

Gee

Gee Report 5 Oct 2011 06:20

If you need any baptism/marriage records up to the following dates, let me know as they may well be on the West Yorkshire parish records and it will save you buying certificates

I can email them to you and you can print off a copy. Just post the details on here


up to 1906 births

up to 1921 marriages


x

Quoy

Quoy Report 5 Oct 2011 10:08

have sent you a pm