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I don't have access to the 1861/71 census, so maybe someone can fill in the stuff I couldn't guess


1871 for Hindley, Lancs pob=Hindley, Lancashire, England for all
John Ramsdale Sr abt 1797 Head
Betty Ramsdale abt 1795 Wife

Margaret Haslam abt 1844 Head
Ellen Haslam abt 1865 Daughter

John Ramsdale Jr abt 1824 Head
Ann Ramsdale abt 1825 Wife
Jane Ramsdale abt 1851 Daughter
Rachel Ramsdale abt 1854 Daughter
Thomas Ramsdale abt 1856 Son
John Ramsdale abt 1859 Son
James Ramsdale abt 1863 Son
Alice Ramsdale abt 1870 Daughter
[rg10/3891/55/12]
3 adjacent h/hs - can't tell if difft houses


1861
David Hibbert name abt 1819 city, Cheshire, England relation city, Lancashire
Sarah Hibbert name abt 1822 city relation city, Lancashire
William Hibbert name,name abt 1843 city relation city, Lancashire
Eli Hibbert name,name abt 1846 city relation city, Lancashire
Thomas Hibbert name,name abt 1848 city relation city, Lancashire
James Hibbert name,name abt 1851 city relation city, Lancashire
Margaret Hibbert name,name abt 1854 city relation city, Lancashire
Sarah Ann Hibbert name,name abt 1856 city relation city, Lancashire
Elizabeth Hibbert name,name abt 1858 city relation city, Lancashire
John Joseph Hibbert name,name abt 1860 city, Lancashire, England relation city, Lancashire
[rg9/2799/34/18]
Note this James has a bro Thos who might be a witness on a marr.


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1841
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HIBBERT David RHODES Sarah Manchester, Didsbury, St. James Manchester 53/1/135

Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
Hibbert David Chorlton 20 97
RHODES Sarah Chorlton 20 97
et al

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1876
the 3 James listed above shoing mmn as, Hurst, Grim(e)wood and Ramsdale

The James who married Jane Ramsdale had a father David

Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HIBBERT James Hindley Wigan & Leigh HURST HNDL/58/457

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HIBBERT James Hindley Wigan & Leigh GRIMEWOOD HNDL/62/303

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1879
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HIBBERT James Hindley Wigan & Leigh RAMSDALE HNDL/67/325

for the 2nd one the marriage shows fathers name as Robert

Marriage: 24 Dec 1873 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England
John Hibbert - 23 Collier Bachelor of Wingates Westhoughton
Mary Grimwood - 24 Spinster of Castle Hill
Groom's Father: Robert Hibbert, Mechanic
Bride's Father: William Grimwood, Collier
Witness: Peter Grimwood; Mary Gidlow
Married by Banns by: Edwin Lovegrove Curate in Charge
Register: Marriages 1866 - 1880, Page 140, Entry 279
Source: LDS Film 93751

the 3rd one is not on lan-opc

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HIBBERT John HURST Mary J Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/50/175

when you say there are 2 born around this time I assume you mean james born c1879

from lan-opc.org.uk there are these 3 in Hindley, the last one would be yours as he was the only one born in 1879 as shown in the post above

Baptisms: 7 Apr 1878 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England
James Hibbert - Son of John Hibbert & Mary
Born: 15 Mar 1878
Abode: Castle Hill
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: C.G. Hopkinson Curate in Charge
Register: Baptisms 1876 - 1880, Page 41, Entry 326
Source: LDS Film 93747

Baptisms: 28 Jul 1878 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England
James Hibbert - Son of John Hibbert & Mary Jane
Born: 23 Nov 1877
Abode: Hindley Green
Occupation: Mill-hand
Baptised by: H. Pollexfen Curate
Register: Baptisms 1876 - 1880, Page 50, Entry 395
Source: LDS Film 93747

Baptisms: 25 Jan 1880 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England
James Hibbert - Son of James Hibbert & Jane
Born: 6 Nov 1879
Abode: Hindley Green
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: C. G. Hopkinson Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1876 - 1880, Page 98, Entry 781
Source: LDS Film 93747

Try a look up at:

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

Look up Jane's witness, Margaret Haslem, in John Ramsdale's h/h.
Also check the next h/h.


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
RAMSDALE Jane Hindley Wigan & Leigh WOOD HNDL/11/157

Marriage: 9 Jan 1848 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Ramsdale - (X), 23 Labourer Bachelor of Hindley
Ann Wood - (X), 22 Spinster of Hindley
Groom's Father: John Ramsdale, Labourer
Bride's Father: Thomas Wood, dead
Witness: William Ingram, (X); Thomas Wood, (X)
Married by Banns by: Edward Pigot Curate
Register: Marriages 1846 - 1848, Page 226, Entry 451
Source: LDS Film 1885695


Baptism: 31 Jan 1875 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England
Alice Ramsdale - [Child] of Rachael Ramsdale
Born: 22 Oct 1870
Abode: Long Lane
Occupation: Single woman
Baptised by: Edwin Lovegrove, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1873 - 1876, Page 41, Entry 322
Source: LDS Film 93748

thanks to all re-hibbert family father james mother jane ramsdale married 1872 all saints
l am trying to trace both living and passed away, but there are two james hibberts born around that date, maybe they could be related? l have the 1881 1891 census

James death

Burial: 28 Feb 1899 St James, New Bury, Farnworth, Lancashire
James Hibbert -
Age: 48
Abode: 27 Jackson Street
Buried by: George Holden Vicar

Barbara

I was born in England, but we left there in 1967. Came to Vancouver in 1968 .... and been here ever since.




sylvia xx

Hi Sylvia,

I'm in Kelowna!! I was actually born in England but moved here 5 years ago.

good advice Cynthia - it doesn't look like Joyce has been back to check her replies though ...shame.

Babs x

Hello Joyce,

If you are looking for possible connections on this site, then try putting the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above (in the dark green bar). There are quite a lot of Hibbert's from Hindley/Wigan in trees on this site.

If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owners.


Cx

Sylvia.......do you mean you were born BC? I did just wonder :-D :-D

Hi Barbara


I'm also in BC!


Vancouver



sylvia

Agreed Sylvia....

It would certainly make life easier but worse are those posters that never acknowledge the info you find for them!


on a personal note, where in Canada are you? I'm in BC.

It would be so good if only posters would say what they are looking for, and what information they already have!




It would take the guesswork out, and make life easier.


I'm not even going to join in the guessing as to what it is Joyce really wants to know!



sylvia

Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html

Marriage: 21 Apr 1872 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England
James Hibbert - 21 Collier Bachelor of Hindley Common
Jane Ramsdale - (X), 21 Spinster of Hindley Common
Groom's Father: David Hibbert, Factory hand
Bride's Father: John Ramsdale, Labourer
Witness: Thomas Hibbert; Margaret Haslam, (X)
Married by Banns by: Charles H. Newbold, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1866 - 1880, Page 106, Entry 211
Source: LDS Film 93751


Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HIBBERT John Hindley Wigan & Leigh RAMSDALE HNDL/47/12
1874
HIBBERT Sarah Ann Hindley Wigan & Leigh RAMSDALE HNDL/51/101
1875
HIBBERT Margaret Jane Hindley Wigan & Leigh RAMSDALE HNDL/56/105
1877
HIBBERT Elizabeth Hannah Hindley Wigan & Leigh RAMSDALE HNDL/61/56
1879
HIBBERT James Hindley Wigan & Leigh RAMSDALE HNDL/67/325

LancsBMD are currently retro fitting the mum's MS to Hindley births, but they're not done yet. 1882 is the first Hindley Hibbert missing the mum's MS. Their last update was 1/9/11 when they added 4 y's worth. Check back in 3-4 w time.

1911 - 26 Newport Street Farnworth

Jane - widow 60

Sarah Ann 37
James 21
Thomas 24
David 18
Louisa 14

Ethel 13 - grandchild
John Colley 35 - son in law
Margaret Jane Colley 35 daughter

the record also states that were 11 children born in total - only 6 still living at time of census.

hope all this helps :)

I can't find them in 1891 but in 1901 the family were at

27 Jackson St, Farnworth

Jane - widow 50
Sarah Ann 27
Margaret Jane 25
James 21
Thomas 14 born Farnsworth
David 8 "
Louisa 4 "
Ethel 3 "

also listed is Louisa Edge, Boarder

Welcome to the boards Joyce

If you would like some help could you please say what you are looking for,.to save people looking for info you already have

please read the post at the top of the board

"Please read before Posting"

jax

1881 - has them living at 9, Tanner Longhams ??. Hindley Green.

James 30 ( Coal miner) born Bolton
Jane 30 born Hindley
Sarah A, 7 born Hindley
Margaret J 5 born Hindley
Elizabeth H 3 born Hindley
James 1 born Hindley

to confirm the info you have provided....

Groom's Name: James Hibbert
Groom's Birth Date: 1851
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 21
Bride's Name: Jane Ramsdale
Bride's Birth Date: 1851
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 21
Marriage Date: 21 Apr 1872
Marriage Place: Hindley,Lancashire,England

Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01995-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 93750
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hibbert family father james mother jane ramsdale married 1872 all saints