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From IGI I have the family for Mary Maria Pickles which I have tried to expand but the G.R. single line census entries for 1851 don't quite match up and I am hoping someone can see anything different. Apart from 'Bristol' in place of Idle I think the places of birth for John and Elizabeth have been reversed, marriages mostly taking place at the brides church??

MARY MARIA PICKLES
Christening: 12 APR 1829 Shipley, Yorkshire
Father: JOHN PICKLES
Mother: ELIZABETH
ELIZA 17 JUN 1827, WILLIAM HAINSWORTH 12 JUN 1831, DAVID 26 JUL 1835, JABEZ 16 SEP 1838

JOHN PICKLES Marriage: 04 JUN 1826 Calverley, Yorkshire
Spouse: ELIZABETH HAINSWORTH

1851
Pickles William 1832 Idle Keighley, Keighley

Pickles Eliza 1828 Idle Bradford, Calverley

Pickles David 1835 Bristol Keighley, Keighley

Pickles Jabez 1839 Bristol Keighley, Keighley

Pickles John 1804 Calverley Keighley, Keighley

Pickles Elizabeth 1803 Keighley Keighley, Keighley


ELISABETH AINSWORTH
Christening: 18 SEP 1803 Calverley, Yorkshire
Father: JOSEPH AINSWORTH

Any ideas please?

Many thanks,
Frances

Any help?

1851 England Census
about John Pickles
Name: John Pickles
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betty Pickles
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Calverley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Keighley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Keighley
Sub-registration district: Keighley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4ab
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 2287
Folio: 696
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John Pickles 47 Wool sorter
Betty Pickles 48 b. Bradford, Yorks
David Pickles 16 b Bristol (or Burstol), Yorkshire
Jabez Pickles 12 " " "
Wm Rushworth 26 Lodger

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2287; Folio: 696; Page: 2; GSU roll: 87476-87479.


Dea x

1851
John Pickles Head 47 Wool sorter Calverley Yorkshire
Betty Pickles 48 Bradford
David Pickles 16 ? Should read ? Birstall
Jabez Pickles 12
Wm Rishworth Lodger

This is the family where the place of birth is entered as Bristol.-jl

851 England Census about Betty Pickles
Name: Betty Pickles
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Pickles
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Keighley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Keighley
Sub-registration district: Keighley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4ab
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 2287
Folio: 696
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John Pickles 47
Betty Pickles 48
David Pickles 16
Jabez Pickles 12
Wm Rushworth 26
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1851 ??

Name: John Pickles
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betty Pickles
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Calverley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Keighley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Spring Gardens


Registration district: Keighley
Sub-registration district: Keighley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4ab
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 2287
Folio: 696
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John Pickles 47 Wool sorter
Betty Pickles 48 b. Bradford
David Pickles 16 b. Bristol, Yorkshire
Jabez Pickles 12 b. Bristol, Yorkshire
Wm Rushworth 26 Lodger





These Pickles on the same page may also be of interest to you.

Name: Matthew Pickles
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Pickles
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Lothersdale, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Keighley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Low Spring Gardens

Occupation: Overlooker Worsted


Registration district: Keighley
Sub-registration district: Keighley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4ab
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 2287
Folio: 696
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Pickles 36
Elizabeth Pickles 34
Sampson Pickles 1

William H Pickles of Idle (1832)is on the census at his father in law (Joseph Fletcher)address together with Grace Pickles

Thank you Janet , Dea, Lindsey and rootgatherer, it seems that my 'fishing' has caught bits that do not match my original target. Birstall is quite a distance from idle!

Looking at Eliza Pickles I wondered if she is a servant or is she with her grandparents? Hoping for a stroke of luck here - lol

1841 England Census
about John Pickles
Name: John Pickles
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Tong
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Drighlington
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1291
Book: 10
Folio: 11
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
John Pickles 35 Stuff Manufacturer
Betty Pickles 35
Mary Maria Pickles 10 ******
William Pickles 10
David Pickles 5
Jabez Pickles 3



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1291; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Tong; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 11; Page: 15; Line: 18; GSU roll: 464252.

Dea x

Dea you have just read my mind - to get back to 1841, but is the 1851 remnants of the 1841, after all Jabez with David surely can't crop up that often....?

I can't see an Eliza born 1828 on the 1851 ???

Dea x

Eliza Pickles is a servant at Woodhall Calverley 1851

Ann Waddington 44 Housekeeper Gisborn
Eliza Pickles 28 Housemaid Idle
Mary Pickles 22 Cook Idle
Mary Waddington 16 Under servant Bradford
Mary Stansfield visitor Millener Idle

-jl

Yep - Just found her - Ancestry has her as Mary Piclkes !!!

Dea x

Thank you Janet, Eliza being a servant spoils that hope.
Its a shame that info on marriages c.1826 are not easy to come by

Birstall is only about 10 or 15 miles away from Idle. Not a long way when looking for work-jl

Yes Janet, that they moved to Birstall is fine but hiking back to Idle/Shipley for two christenings?

sorry Frances, I have read your message several times and I can't quite see what you are asking. When you say ' Eliza being a servant spoils that hope' what exactly are you wanting to know.-j

My gt gt grandmother took all her children back to her place of birth for christening -in my family that was taking them all from Huddersfield to Horbury Wakefield. I think people travelled more than we imagine.-j

From FreeBMD
Births Sep 1838
PICKLES Jabez Bradford
23 134

but I am not sure whether Birstall is covered by the Bradford District - well yes Cleckheaton is near enough

Looks like this is going to have to stay unresolved!