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Hi there, essentially I am looking for a Mrs Mallaby and a Mrs Edwards in the 1901/1911 census, possibly living in Chapel Yard, Guisborough.

This information is taken from an asylum patient casenote that I found last week. The patient is Thomas Swales (1822-1909) who died in the Clifton Asylum, York. I have looked for Thomas in the census previously and he is fairly difficult to track, but managed to trace him through the help of people on here. I am not looking for him in the census but his next of kin, Mrs Mallaby and Mrs Edwards who were described as living in Chapel Yard, Guisborough when he was sectioned in 1899. I assume they are his daughters. I can see no relevent Swales marriages on an inital search so I am wondering if someone could have a spot for them in the census. For clarity, here is Thomas in 1881/1891 and 1901 but let me stress I am not looking for any further information on him.

Thanks,

Peter

1881
Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas SWALES Head M Male 59 Aycliffe, Durham, England Tin Plate Worker
Charlotte SWALES Wife M Female 39 Middlesbro, York, England
William SWALES Son Male 16 Middlesbro, York, England Tin Plate Worker
Christiana SWALES Daur Female 12 Middlesbro, York, England Scholar
Frank SWALES Son Male 9 Middlesbro, York, England Scholar
James SWALES Son Male 6 Middlesbro, York, England Scholar
Mary Jane SWALES Daur Female 4 Middlesbro, York, England
Bessie SWALES Daur Female 9 m Guisbro, York, England

Source Information:
Dwelling 6 Wynns Yard
Census Place Guisbrough, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342167
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4844 / 62

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1891
Thomas Swales
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Acliffe, Durham, England

Civil parish: Guisborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Town: Guisborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Guisborough
Sub-registration district: Guisborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age


Thomas Swales 48 Tinsmith
Charlotte Swales 48
James Swales 16
Mary J Swales 13
Bessie Swales 10
John Swale 8
John T Swale 5
Sherwood Townshend 30
Ada Townshend 29
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1901
Thomas Swales
Age: 78
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Pauper Patient (Pauper)
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Clifton Without
Ecclesiastical parish: Clifton St Phillip and St James
Town: Clifton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:ret. tinmaker

Condition as to marriage:widower

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Bootham
ED, institution, or vessel: North Riding Lunatic Asylum
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1

A possibility to investigate:

MALLABY, Hannah Sophia Head Widow F 60 1851 Lodging House Keeper Redcar Yorks VIEW
FOWLER, Ethel Daughter Single F 27 1884 School Teacher Redcar Yorks VIEW
FOWLER, Adam Son Single M 25 1886 Chauffeur Redcar Yorks VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29175 Reference:
RG14PN29175 RG78PN1691 RD534 SD3 ED3 SN148

Registration District:
Guisborough Sub District:
Marske Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Redcar

Address:
Albion Cottage Esplanade Redcar County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

I am not sure the above is the one you are after:

Marriages Jun 1894
Fowler Hannah Sophia Guisbro' 9d 726
Mallaby William Henry Guisbro' 9d 726

married women with surname Mallaby in Yorkshire in 1901

Hannah Mallaby] Alice,
William abt 1857 Hunton, Yorkshire, England Wife Hunton, Yorkshire
View Record
Ann Mallaby John abt 1837 Smeton, Yorkshire, England Wife Swinton, Yorkshire
View Record
Frances Mallaby Robert abt 1841 West Scrafton, Yorkshire, England Wife Ellingstring, Yorkshire
View Record
Martha Isabel Mallaby Robert abt 1851 Hunton, Yorkshire, England Wife Kirkby Fleetham, Yorkshire
View Record
Dinah Mallaby Robert abt 1852 Ilton, Yorkshire, England Wife Swinton, Yorkshire
View Record
Mary Ann Mallaby Joseph abt 1852 Swinton; Masham, Yorkshire, England Wife Yeadon, Yorkshire
View Record
Jane Mallaby William abt 1855 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Wife Headingley Cum Burley, Yorkshire
View Record
Jane Mallaby Peter abt 1855 Well, Yorkshire, England Wife Masham, Yorkshire
View Record
Mary Mallaby Joseph C abt 1857 Walker, Northamptonshire, England Wife Thornaby, Yorkshire
View Record
Mary Mallaby Peter abt 1860 Park Lottom, Yorkshire, England Wife Masham, Yorkshire
Mary Jane Mallaby abt 1862 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Wife Leeds, Yorkshire
View Record
Fanny Mallaby Arthur abt 1865 Mark Britton, Yorkshire, England Wife Ripon, Yorkshire
View Record
Annie Mallaby John F abt 1868 Barnby Upon Don, Yorkshire, England Wife Barnby Upon Don, Yorkshire
View Record
Ellen Mallaby John A abt 1871 West Tanfield, Yorkshire, England Wife Leeds, Yorkshire
View Record
Clara Mallaby Joseph B abt 1872 Sharlston, Yorkshire, England Wife Wakefield, Yorkshire
View Record
Ada Mallaby Robert abt 1873 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England Wife Halton Gill, Yorkshire
View Record
Mary Mallaby William abt 1873 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Wife Horbury, Yorkshire
View Record
Harriett Mallaby William abt 1874 Redmire, Yorkshire, England Wife Burton Cum Walden, Yorkshire
View Record
Sarah J Mallaby John abt 1875 Leeming, Yorkshire, England Wife Healey, Yorkshire
View Record
Sarah Mallaly
[Sarah Mallaby] William abt 1865 Thooalty, Yorkshire, England Wife Colsterdale, Yorkshire

Have you looked for marriages for the SWALES daughters.............on freebmd.........to eliminate any (or all) of them?

Hi and thank you - I have looked for the marriages of the daughters but they are quite difficult to find. I do find that sometimes relatives do just seem to disappear.

Also, thank you for the list Flick - none of the birthplaces seem to jump out though! Grrr ... thank you though!

And Sophia Hannah Mallaby - not sure. The Swales family were hawkers/tinners/general dealers and labourers, so not sure one of them would be living with a school teacher. I could be wrong of course.

Thank you

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Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Duck William Guisbro' 9d 1071
KIME Sarah Guisbro' 9d 1071
Swales Christiana Guisbro' 9d 1071
Swales Francis Guisbro' 9d 1071

Of course, the women who committed him to the asylum may not have been directly related.

Where was his wife at this time?

Hi Flick, I know - I have only ASSUMED Mrs Edwards and Mrs Mallaby are his daughters, as their relationship to Thomas is not stated. That and the fact, there are Swales relatives of mine living in Chapel Yard in the 1891/1901 and 1911. Also, I don't where his wife went, or if they were actually married as I can't find a marriage. I think the Swales were a little before their time, for as a collective community, they often flouted many of the traditional conventions of the day.

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SWALES, Francis
Address: 16 Old Chapel Yard Guisborough


SWALES, Francis Head Married M 38 1873 Hawker Coxhoe Cy Durham VIEW
SWALES, Christinia Wife Married
13 years F 35 1876 Coxhoe Cy Durham VIEW
SWALES, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1899 Yks Guisborough VIEW
SWALES, James Son M 9 1902 Yks Guisborough VIEW
SWALES, Christinia Daughter F 7 1904 Yks Guisborough VIEW
SMITH, James Visitor Married M 26 1885 Miner Ironstone Yks Guisborough VIEW
SMITH, Mary Ann Wife Married
6 years F 25 1886 Durham Coxhoe VIEW
SMITH, John Richard Son Of Visitor M 3 1908 Yorks Guisborough VIEW
SMITH, James Son Of Visitor M 2 1909 Yorks Guisborough VIEW

1901


>>>>EDWARDS, Christiana Head Widow F 32 1869 Charwoman
Middlesbrough
Yorkshire VIEW
BRUCE, John Boarder Single M 37 1864 Tailor
Scotland VIEW

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Piece:
4571 Folio:
87 Page:
24 Registration District:
Guisbrough

Civil Parish:
Guisbrough Municipal Borough:
Address:
15, Old Chapel Yard, Westgate, Guisbrough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Pretty Lilian Guisbro' 9d 889
Swales Mary Jane Guisbro' 9d 889
Turner George Michael Guisbro' 9d 889
Watson William Henry Guisbro' 9d 889

So, neither of the women you seek was MARY JANE

Wow thanks - Flick RE the 1911 - beleive it or not, but the Francis Swales/Christiana Swales were actually distant cousins of Christiana Swales (parents Thomas and Charlotte). So, that is not her marriage as I can already account for that record.

However, I am currently emailing the register office over the Smith-Swales marriage.

Wow Choccy - you seem to have found one of the informants! Thanks ... is she still alive in 1911?

Thank you

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%)
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APPLEGARTH Christiana Guisbro' 9d 625
EDWARDS George Guisbro' 9d 625

Thanks Flick - I suspect Mary Jane married James Smith but I am waiting to hear back from the registrar. One off the list!

Hmmmm unusal! I have emailed regarding the Applegarth-Edwards marriage asking if Christiana was a widow and daughter of Thomas.

Thanks

Christiana Edwards in 1911 - she married Arthur Peary in the second quarter of 1911. Looks like she was unrelated to the Swales - she appears to be the daughter of Charlotte -


1911

BAXTER, Thomas Head Married M 42 1869 Ironstone Miner Skelton Yorkshire VIEW
BAXTER, Charlotte Wife Married
14 years F 67 1844 Shartfort Durham VIEW
EDWARDS, Christiana Daughter Widow F 41 1870 Middlesbro Yorkshire VIEW
APPLEGARTH, James Son Single M 38 1873 General Labourer Middlesbro Yorkshire VIEW
PEARY, Arthur Boarder Single M 32 1879 Ironstone Miner Pichingthorpe Yorkshire VIEW
RAMSEY, William Boarder Single M 30 1881 Ironstone Miner Carlin Howe Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, John Boarder Single M 24 1887 Ironstone Miner Carlin Skelton Yorkshire VIEW
WALLER, Joself Boarder Single M 34 1877 Ironstone Miner Dunsdale Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29192 Reference:
RG14PN29192 RG78PN1692 RD534 SD4 ED3 SN45

Registration District:
Guisborough Sub District:
Guisborough Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Guisborough

Address:
31 Northgate Guisborough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)




Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
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>>>>>Edwards Christiana Guisbro 9d 1011
Garbutt Edith Guisbro 9d 1011
>>>>>PEARY Arthur Guisbro 9d 1011
Tooley John Guisbro 9d 1011





Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
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>>>>>APPLEGARTH Charlotte Guisbro' 9d 828
>>>>>BAXTER Thomas Guisbro' 9d 828
Masters Susan Guisbro' 9d 828
WARD William Morley Guisbro' 9d 828

Wow that would explain where Charlotte disappeared too! But Christiana was born a Swales - maybe she reverted to her mother's name after some disagreement with her father Thomas Swales?! Very complicated - I did warn they did not conform to social expectations!

Thanks again.

Christiana Peary then married Albert Allgood in 1919 and died in 1926.

Charlotte Baxter died in 1913.

It seems this is Bessie's marriage under the name APPLEGARTH (can she be found in 1911)?

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
Applegarth Bessie Guisbro' 9d 949 Scan available - click to view
Parnaby Thomas William D Guisbro' 9d 949 Scan available - click to view
Sigsworth Clara Jane Guisbro' 9d 949 Scan available - click to view
Sigsworth Eliza Jane Guisbro' 9d 949 Scan available - click to view
Smith George Guisbro' 9d 949 Scan available - click to view

This is also PROBABLY Mary's marriage:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
Applegarth Mary Jane Guisbro' 9d 835 Scan available - click to view
Ditchburn Robert Guisbro 9d 835 Scan available - click to view
Harding Elizabeth Guisbro' 9d 835 Scan available - click to view
Helm Frank Guisbro' 9d 835 Scan available - click to view

Can she be spotted in the census? I am not wanting to email the register office about their marriages as it seems that Thomas Swales would not be entered as the father? Would this be correct?

Oh dear - seems James died quite young:

Deaths Sep 1912 (>99%)
APPLEGARTH James 37 Guisbro' 9d 537 Scan available - click to view


Thank you for this help as I don't think I would have concluded this myself if I had continued working alone. I am constantly amazed at how helpful you people are. Amazing!

Could this be the Mellanby you are looking for....notice different spelling...

1891 census - address transcription
Address: 4, Old Chapel Yard, Guisborough



Sched Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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138 MELLANBY, Thomas Head Widower M 45 1846 Ironstone Miner
Guisbrough
Yorkshire
138 MELLANBY, Eliza M Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Guisbrough
Yorkshire
138 MELLANBY, Jane A Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Guisbrough
Yorkshire

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4002 Folio:
82 Page:
24

Sub District:
Guisborough Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Nicholas

Municipal Borough:
Address:
4, Old Chapel Yard, Guisborough County:
Yorkshire (North Riding)


Or this one,,,,,

1891 census - address transcription Sched Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
census
image

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139 MELLANBY, Catherine Head Widow F 73 1818 Pauper
Guisbrough
Yorkshire

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Hey, I was in Leeds today Sue, Err yes I suppose that seems a very likely match, especially with the address. Hmmm, why didn't these documents contain more information? Arrr.

Also, checked the birth record for Christiana Swales, daughter of a Thomas and Charlotte, but Charlotte's maiden name was NOT Appelgarth ... this birth was in Middlesbrough in 1868 so I am stumped.