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Hello, I wondered if someone could help me , or advise where to look, my grandmother Beatrice Emily Gillard was born in Preston Yeovil in 1888, she had a son called Cecil, but known as cecil White, I think also born in yeovil, she married in 1917 to a Walter Henry White born 1879, Cecil White was born I think around 1904, but i can find Beatrice at 23 years in Kensington without her son, my father Geoffrey White born 1930 , can remember him as being a lot older , when he new him as a child, as he had not lived with them and looks like he did not look like he lived with his mother, hope this all makes sense, thankyou

Who are you actually looking for?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: GILLARD, Beatrice Emily
Address: 15 Thurloe Square SW


TREVELYAN, William Bouverie Warden Single M 57 1854 Clerk In Holy Orders London Middlesex VIEW
SADLER, Charles Chaplain Single M 46 1865 Clerk In Holy Orders Bedford Bedfordshire VIEW
YOUNG, Maria Elizabeth Bird Servant Single F 44 1867 Housekeeper Jarrow on Tyne Durham VIEW
DOREY, Elizabeth Mary Servant Single F 34 1877 Housemaid Kennington Surrey VIEW
GILLARD, Beatrice Emily Servant Single F 23 1888 Housemaid Preston Somerset VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
113 Reference:
RG14PN113 RG78PN4 RD2 SD1 ED26 SN94

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
Kensington South Enumeration District:
26 Parish:
Kensington

1911 census - household transcription
Person: GILLARD, Beatrice Emily
Address: 15 Thurloe Square SW


TREVELYAN, William Bouverie Warden Single M 57 1854 Clerk In Holy Orders London Middlesex VIEW
SADLER, Charles Chaplain Single M 46 1865 Clerk In Holy Orders Bedford Bedfordshire VIEW
YOUNG, Maria Elizabeth Bird Servant Single F 44 1867 Housekeeper Jarrow on Tyne Durham VIEW
DOREY, Elizabeth Mary Servant Single F 34 1877 Housemaid Kennington Surrey VIEW
GILLARD, Beatrice Emily Servant Single F 23 1888 Housemaid Preston Somerset VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
113 Reference:
RG14PN113 RG78PN4 RD2 SD1 ED26 SN94

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
Kensington South Enumeration District:
26 Parish:
Kensington

Address:
15 Thurloe Square SW County:
London

i would like to know where cecil is mostly,

are you looking for Cecil White/Gillard? Could he have been with grandparents in 1911?

this one is Beatrice M - not Beatrice E ??


Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
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Gillard Beatrice M White Wincanton 5c 673
White Walter H Gillard Wincanton 5c 673

1901

Name: Beatrice E Gillard
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Doulting
Ecclesiastical parish: Doulting
Town: Chelynch
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Sub-registration district: Shepton Mallet
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 2312
Folio: 44
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Bolster 40
Phillis I Bolster 32
Beatrice E Gillard 13
Harrold John Bolster 1


If you wish to trace Cecil, you must firstly find out about his birth

Have you looked for it on freebmd?

What leads you to think this was Beatrice's child?

He could have been Mr White's son..................do you have the marriage cert to confirm his status when he married Beatrice?

Cecil would have been in his thirties by the time your father was old enough to have any knowledge of him......if his birth was 1904, as you think

Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
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WHITE Cecil William G Yeovil 5c 363

cecil white grandmother was Phillis Gillard, and is not living with her

?Walter Henry White in 1911


1911

WHITE, Walter Henry Head Married
5 years M 32 1879 Farm Labour Somerset Brewham VIEW
WHITE, Kate Edith Wife F 41 1870 Oxfordshire Oxford VIEW
WHITE, Elise Mary Stepdaughter F 7 1904 Middlesex Harrow VIEW
WHITE, Walter Leonard Son M 4 1907 Somerset Chard VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14438 Reference:
RG14PN14438 RG78PN873 RD310 SD3 ED1 SN15

Registration District:
Wincanton Sub District:
Wincanton Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
North Brewham

Address:
North Brewham Bruton County:
Somersetshire



death of Kate Edith -

Deaths Mar 1917 (>99%)
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White Kate E 47 Wincanton 5c 632



Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
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Gillard Beatrice M White Wincanton 5c 673
White Walter H Gillard Wincanton 5c 673

Well he was not with his grandmother:








Reg. District: Frome Sub District: Kilmersdon
Parish: Mells Enum. District: 10

Address: Lower Vobster Coleford Bath
County: Somersetshire



Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
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BOLSTER, Joseph Head Married M 52 1859 Cowman Shelton Somerset
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BOLSTER, Phyllis Jane Wife Married
15 years F 44 1867 Dorset Sherbourne
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BOLSTER, Harold John Son M 11 1900 School Shelton Somerset
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BOLSTER, Daisy May Daughter F 8 1903 School Shelton Somerset
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BOLSTER, William Henry Son M 5 1906 School Som Leyton Frome

Name: Beatrice Emily White
Birth Date: 30 Mar 1888
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1980
Age at Death: 92
Registration district: Mendip
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 23
Page: 1084

Walter henry White had a previous marriage, with 2 children, married to a Kate edith White, they were walter leonard1907 and Elize white 1904, but with no cecil,

Please explain your posting about 'Phillis'

It would also be helpful if you told us why your father was under the impression that 'Cecil' was his half-brother........

Just trying to get a 'handle' on the story.........as there is no birth on freebmd to back it up

................and no sign on 1911 census

My father always said cecil was his brother, he can remember him living with them when they lived at witham friary somerset, when my father was young, Phillis is Beatrices mother and my father can remember the william bolster born to phillis gillard/ bolster, so if my father is correct, cecil and himself would be phillis granchildren

Now beginning to think maybe my father could be incorrect,

Now beginning to think maybe my father could be incorrect,