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Do a look up at http://maps.google.com/ for Novar, Ontario, Canada
It's on the Parry Sound/Muskoka boundary - presumably Boundary Rd is the actual county line.

From http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002011666.pdf
the actually farm addy is Lot 17 Conc 6, but I don't have a concession map for Perry Twp.
Isaac is a Farmer, with pob=O (i.e., Ontario) - in spite of the census header, it's subdistrict 29, not 42.

NB There are concession maps for southern Ont, but they stop short of Muskoka. See
http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/SearchMapframes.php

There are free links to census 1871-1911 at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html

thank you all very much,
have to do a bit of map reading now to see where they were
maddie

You're very welcome Maddie.

So Emily Marks nee Patchett must be Minnie Halstead's sister?

(EDIT - yes, they're on the 1901 together, just wanted to get it straight in my head)

Wonder how Emily and Isaac met?

so much to take in
thank you all so much
marie celeste is right as the parents are john and lavinia
lavinia and john lived in nelson burnley
emily patchett was born 1877 in bradford
maddie

This is a bit odd - Emily arriving in Canada 1909, saying she's single but she got married there 2 years earlier!

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Emily Patchett < Domestic
Gender: Female
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Date of Arrival: 15 Oct 1909
Vessel: Corsican
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4764

(There's a stamp over the bit where it asks ever in Canada before, so can't make it out.)

** I don't know anything about passports in those days, perhaps she just hadn't changed it to her married name?

Isaac's birth:

042076-80 (York Co) MARK, Isaac William, m, b 10 Apr.1873, father - Isaac MARK, carpenter; mother - Catherine SHAVER, infm - Isaac MARK, Stouffville

The Marks family on the 1911 census in Canada, in Parry Sound, Ontario:

Marks Isaac M Head M Apr 1873 38
Marks Emily F Wife M Dec 1876 34
Marks Frank M Son S Nov 1895 15
Marks Violet M Daughter S Nov 1899 11
Marks Cassie F Daughter S Apr 1902 9
Marks William M Son S May 1904

On the original I can't make out where Isaac was born but Emily was born England and emigrated 1909. Children all born Ontario.

Isaac & Emily's marriage:

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928
Name: Isaac Marks < a farmer (widower)
Birth Place: Markham, Ontario
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Father Name: Isaac Marks
Mother Name: Catherine Shaver
Spouse Name: Emily Patchett, a housekeeper (spinster)
Spouse's Age: 32
Spouse Birth Place: Bradford, England
Spouse Father Name: John Patchett
Spouse Mother Name: Lavinia Whitford
Marriage Date: 27 Oct 1907
Marriage Location: Parry Sound District
Marriage County or District: Parry Sound

(Isaac's first marriage was to Emily Bice in 1893)

1911 Census of Canada
Name: Isaac Marks < Farmer
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 38
Birth Date: Apr 1873
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Marks
Tribal: English
Province: Ontario
District: Perry Sound
District Number: 108
Sub-District: Perry Township, Nonar Village
Sub-District Number: 29

Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Marks 38
Emily Marks 34 born Dec 1876, came to Canada 1909 ?
Frank Marks 15
Violet Marks 11
Cassie Marks 9
William Marks 7
(Children all born Canada)

Emily, wife of Isaac, daughter of Mrs Pratchett. Canadian citizen returning home after a visit

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Emily Mark Name: Emily Mark
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birth Place: England
Age: 45
Date of Arrival: 20 Oct 1922
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Nelson, England
Ship Name: Montclare

Wasn't sure whether to put this one up as the uncle as his mother-in-law was Pratchett on the form and looking for Halstead. Mrs Pratchett address at the time 82 Romney Street, Nelson.

Travelled with wife Emily.

Isaac born in Canada. Returning after a holiday.

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Isaac Mark Name: Isaac Mark
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Birth Place: Ontario, Canada
Age: 49
Date of Arrival: 30 1922
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England
Ship Name: Montclare

Vera

I don't think William left Horace behind in Canada - he'd obviously been over earlier then returned to England. He then took the whole family back over in 1922 (children travelling ahead with aunt & uncle).

Will look for the Marks .......

BUT - I'm not sure that William was telling the total truth when he said he'd been in Canada 1909 - 1912. He was at home in England on 1911 census. Looks like he was back and forth quite a bit:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Wm Halstead < Mechanic
Birth Date: abt 1882
Age: 26
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival Date: 31 Jul 1908
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Empress of Ireland
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Steamship Line
Official Number: 123972


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: William Halstead < Mechanic, going to Toronto
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Date of Arrival: 25 Sep 1908
Vessel: Empress of Britain
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4759

wow
thank you thats so interestng
so i now have to find the marks family
patchett is my maiden name

maddie

Horace accompanied by aunt and uncle Mr and Mrs Isaac Marks with whom he was to live. Parents living at 20 Collingwoof Street, Coventry at that time.

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Horace Halstead Name: Horace Halstead
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Birth Place: Nelson, England
Age: 14
Date of Arrival: 20 Oct 1922
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Nelson, England
Ship Name: Montclare

Vera

Just to add to the info already found:

Doris Amelia Halstead arriving 20/10/1922 - she was accompanying her aunt & uncle who were returning. They were Mr & Mrs Isaac Marks of Geohia (??) Junction, Ontario. She had £5 in cash, and had paid her own passage. She gives her nearest relatives in the UK as parents Mr & Mrs Halstead at 20 Collingwood St, Colne. She was born in Nelson and her religion was Church of England. She had never been to Canada before. Her current occupation was a weaver and she now intended to work on uncle's farm.

ADDED
Minnie Halstead arriving 10/03/1922 travelling with husband William. Her present and intended occupation was House Duties. She had £10 cash. Travelling to stay with son & daughter at 13 May St, Barrowford. Nearest UK relative was her mother Mrs Patchett at 82 Romney Street, Nelson (NB - the arrival date is wrong as the sailing date was 08/12/1922)

William gives his current occupation as Loomer and intends to be a mechanic. He states he was previously in Canada from 1909 (arrived Quebec?), lived in Seohia Junction and left 1912 to rejoin his wife & family. He had £30. On this arrival he was going to his son and intended to remain in Canada permanently.

thanks lynn
i just hope one of our canadian gr members could take this further
fingers crossed
regards
maddie

Name: Jessie Halstead
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Birth Place: Colne, England
Age: 11
Date of Arrival: 16 Dec 1922
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Nelson, England
Ship Name: Montclare

thank you
that matches
wonder why they left horace behind
maddie

Name: Doris Amelia Halstead
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Birth Place: Nelson, England
Age: 17
Date of Arrival: 20 Oct 1922
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Nelson, England
Ship Name: Montclare


Taken from ancestry world - Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924

This is where I found the information about William

hi lynne
could be, age just a little bit out
cannot find them returning to England
there is a certificate of arrival on ancestry but i don't have the sub to access it
just wondering if i have any relatives in canada

where did you find his departure 1909 andarrival to be with horace
but then he left him in 1922
thank you for looking
regards
maddie