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Georgina

Georgina Report 17 Nov 2011 14:59

Hi,
I'm searching for my great great grandparents' marriage, so far no luck! Francis Berry, born about 1811 in Cornwall, married Charlotte, born about 1816 in Oxfordshire, don't know her surname or the year of their marriage, Charlotte died in 1848, and I think Francis remarried in 1851, but I can't find his first marriage anywhere!
Hopefully,
Georgina

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Nov 2011 15:03

Delete that marriage as the place and date looked wrong.

1841 census for ref.

Name: Franas Berry
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: St Just in Roseland, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: St Giles
Hundred: Oxford
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Headington
Sub-registration district: St Clements
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 891
Book: 6
Folio: 10
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Franas Berry 30
Charlott Berry 25
Mary Berry 4
Charlott Berry 2
Elizth Berry 7 MO
Charlott Harrison 26
Elisha Barker 40
Elizh Barker 40



Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Nov 2011 15:05


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There is this one but maybe a bit too early ?


FRANCIS BERRY --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages:
Spouse: CHARLOTTE MORRIS
Marriage: 16 NOV 1828 St Giles, Reading, Berkshire, England


Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Nov 2011 15:06

No, looks like the above is wrong one --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Francis BERRY
Event(s)
Birth: 1774

Wanborough, Wilts, England
Christening: 4 Nov 1774

Wanborough, Wilts, England
Death: 24 Nov 1840

Reading, Berks
Burial: 24 Nov 1840

Reading, Berks, England

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Parents
Father: John BERRY

Mother: Sarah BAILEY

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Charlotte MORRIS
Marriage: abt 1828
Reading, Berks, England

Spouse: Amey STOKES

Marriage: 14 Nov 1803
St Laurence, Berks, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2011 15:12

???

parents: Thomas Berry,? Mary Ann


name: Francis Berry
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 11 Aug 1811
baptism/christening place: ST JUST IN ROSELAND,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Thomas Berry
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C02189-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 246801

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Nov 2011 15:12

The birth registration would give Charlotte's maiden name.

Births Dec 1840 Berry Elizabeth Headington 16 54

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2011 15:12

name: Francis Berry
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 50
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Headington
sub-district: 2 St Clement
civil parish: St Giles
county: Oxfordshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2011 15:13

children: Mary A Berry,? Sarah Berry...


name: Francis Berry
age: 70
gender: Male
birth year: 1811
birthplace: S Mawes, Cornwall, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Widower
profession/occupation: Tinplate Worker Employing 1 Man & 1 Boy
address: 53 & 54 S Giles St
census place: Oxford St Giles, Oxfordshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341362
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 1500 / 48
page number: 22

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2011 15:14

??

spouse: Charlotte Morris


groom's name: Francis Berry
bride's name: Charlotte Morris
marriage date: 31 Aug 1828
marriage place: Reading, Berkshire, England
groom's marital status: Widowed
bride's marital status: Widowed
indexing project (batch) number: M01192-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040603

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2011 15:18



name: Francis BERRY
gender: Male
birth: 1774
christening: 4 Nov 1774
Wanborough, Wiltshire, England
death: 24 Nov 1840
Reading, Berks
burial: 24 Nov 1840
Reading, Berks, England
AFN: HCPJ-H7

Parents
father: John BERRY (AFN: SVKQ-W2 )
mother: Sarah BAILEY (AFN: SVKQ-P1 )

Marriages (2)
spouse: Amey STOKES (AFN: HCPJ-JD )
marriage: 14 Nov 1803
St Laurence, Berks
Show children (5)

child 1: Amey Dyer BERRY (AFN: SVJQ-NQ )
gender: Female
birth:

child 2: John BERRY (AFN: SVJQ-PW )
gender: Male
birth:

child 3: Rebecca BERRY (AFN: SVJQ-Q3 )
gender: Female
birth:

child 4: William Henry BERRY (AFN: SVJQ-R8 )
gender: Male
birth: Abt 1812
Reading, Berks

child 5: Francis BERRY (AFN: HCPJ-CJ )
gender: Male
birth:

spouse: Charlotte MORRIS (AFN: SVKH-90 )
marriage: Abt 1828

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2011 15:25

1881

Francis BERRY Head W Male 70 S Mawes, Cornwall, England Tinplate Worker Employing 1 Man & 1 Boy
Mary A. BERRY Dau U Female 44 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England Shop Woman
Sarah BERRY Dau U Female 36 Oxford, England Milliner
Maria BERRY Dau U Female 30 Oxford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 53 & 54 S Giles St
Census Place Oxford St Giles, Oxford, England
Family History Library Film 1341362
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1500 / 48
Page Number 22

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2011 15:27

this looks more like Francis - his second marriage



Husband
Francis Berry Pedigree


Birth: 1811 Saint Mawes, Cornwall, England
Christening:
Marriage: DEC 1851 Oxford,Berkshire, , Oxford, England

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Wife
Fanny Hoare Pedigree


Birth: 1829 Sandford, , Oxford, England
Christening:
Marriage: DEC 1851 Oxford,Berkshire, , Oxford, England
Death: 1859 Headington,Buckinghamshire, , Oxford, England
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Children

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1. Maria Berry Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1852 , Oxford, England
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2. Anne Berry Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1855 South Leigh, Oxford, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Nov 2011 15:28

Bingo I think :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Francis Berry Compact Disc #149 Pin #3362717 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 1811

St. Mawes, Cornwall, England

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Parents

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Charlotte Morris Disc #149 Pin #3362726
Marriage: 16 Nov 1828
St. Giles, Reading, Berkshire, England

Spouse: Fanny Hoare Disc #149 Pin #3362727
Marriage: Dec 1851
Oxford, Berkshire, Oxfordshire, England


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Other Event(s)
Census: 1851
St. Giles, Oxfordshire. England
Census: 1861
St. Giles, Oxfordshire. England
Census: 1871
St. Giles, Oxfordshire. England
Census: 1881
St. Giles, Oxfordshire. England

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Nov 2011 15:31

1851

Name: Francis Berry
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Maws, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Oxford St Giles
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Headington
Sub-registration district: Wheatley
ED, institution, or vessel: 12a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Piece: 1727
Folio: 376
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Berry 40 Widower
Mariam Berry 14
Charlotte Berry 11
Elizabeth Berry 10
Sarah Berry 6
Fanny Hoare 22 House Servant

1861 - Widowed again?

Name: Francis Berry
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Oxford St Giles
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Headington
Sub-registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 892
Folio: 73
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Berry 50
Mary A Berry 23
Elizabeth Berry 20
Sarah Berry 16
Maria Berry 9
Anne Berry 6
Ellen Berry 4

This birth would confirm the mother's name.

Births Dec 1851 Berry Maria Headington 16 64

I wonder if there were a few other children before Charlotte died?

Births Jun 1842
BERRY Female Headington 16 67
BERRY Female Headington 16 67

Deaths Jun 1842
BERRY Female Headington 16 42
BERRY Female Headington 16 43


Births Sep 1843 BERRY Female Headington 16 64

Deaths Sep 1843 BERRY Female Headington 16 42

Deaths Mar 1848 Berry Charlotte Headington 16 58

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Nov 2011 15:35

Marriages Dec 1851 (>99%)
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Auger Martha Oxford 16 235
BERRY Francis Oxford 16 235
Carter Abraham Oxford 16 235
Collins William Oxford 16 235
Haynes Thomas Oxford 16 235
Hoare Fanny Oxford 16 235
Nevill Jane Oxford 16 235
Tuckwell Susannah Oxford 16 235



Deaths Dec 1859 Berry Fanny Headington 3a 352

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Nov 2011 15:41

Not too sure how someone b. 1811 could be widowed when they married in 1828? The marriage posted for Francis and Charlotte says that they are both widowed? Am I missing something please?

Georgina

Georgina Report 17 Nov 2011 19:38

Wow!! Thank you everyone for all this information, you've given me loads to go on, and one or two ideas where to go next.
Many thanks.
Georgina

Margaret

Margaret Report 21 Nov 2011 07:46

GEORGINA
Francis Berry married Charlotte Kimber 26/5/1834 at Oxford St Thomas.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Nov 2011 09:13

I like the look of that one better than the Charlotte Morris marriage. I think the Morris marriage is a little too early.

Margaret can you give us the source for your information please?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Nov 2011 09:25

A public member tree on Ancestry has her marriage to Francis Cree Berry.


charlotte Kimber

Birth about 1816
Death 15/01/1848



Francis Cree Berry

Birth 1811 est in St. Mawes Cornwall England
Death 5 May 1888 in 53 St. Giles Oxford


Children

Mary Ann Berry
Birth 1837
Death

Charlotte Berry
Birth 7 April 1839 in St Giles Oxford uk
Marriage to Richard Thomas Hands Headington Oxfordshire UK
Death


Elizabeth Berry

Birth About 1841
Marr: 5 Feb. 1866 to Frederick George at John the Baptist church Summertown Oxford
Death


Sarah Berry

Birth About 1845
Death