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FREDERICK RIDGWELL - ENGLISH SERVICES

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Kerry

Kerry Report 7 Jan 2012 07:33

Would someone be so kind as to look up anything about Frederick Ridgwell. He is on his daughter Louise(Louisa) marriage certificate in 1900 Perth West Australia. His Profession was 'soldier' Her mothers name was Jane. I thought I would start by looking up service records.
Ta
Kerry

Quoy

Quoy Report 7 Jan 2012 08:28

Hello
can you give some more information on Louise e.g who did she marry ,when and where was she born ?


found this
Louise Maude Ridgwell wed William Wallace Marriott

not her ,her father was Walter

Kerry

Kerry Report 7 Jan 2012 08:55

Yes that is the one, but for some reason some information has been carried forward incorrectly

William did not have a middle name. I have there marriage certificate and Frederick is her father ( not Walter). William and Louise were both 29 when they wed 13 November 1900 in Perth Western Australia. That is correct because her death was in 1956 and she was 85.

Have not been able to confirm where she was born yet.

patchem

patchem Report 7 Jan 2012 09:00

Do you know if he was still alive when his daughter married?
Thanks

Quoy

Quoy Report 7 Jan 2012 09:03

Who were the witness's ?
could be another clue

Kerry

Kerry Report 7 Jan 2012 09:37

I have not been able to find out how Louisa came to Australia. She was here in 1894 because she had a son Cecil William and then another Reginal William in 1895 with no husband mentioned.

She must have come from somewhere. Is there any passenger lists that can be looked up with her leaving England. I know this might be a bit difficult because I still have not confirmed her birth place.

I was going to find her father and then work from there.


One witness was Williams sister in law

Quoy

Quoy Report 7 Jan 2012 10:42

There is this one on Find my past but I do not have access

Last name First name(s) Year of
birth Place of birth Collection Transcript Original
Images


RIDGWELL Frederick 1847 Halstead, Essex WO97 Chelsea VIEW VIEW


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Jan 2012 11:19

Father named as Frederick F on her death:

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985

Name: Louisa Maude Marriott
Death Place: Western Australia
Age: 85
Father's Name: Frederick F
Mother's name: Katherine
Registration Year: 1956
Registration Place: East Coolgardie, Western Australia
Registration Number: 101
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871

Mother's name given as Katherine NOT Jane.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Jan 2012 11:34

The record Quoy found:

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s): Frederick
Last name: RIDGWELL
Calculated year of birth: 1847
Parish of birth: Sible Hedingham
Town of birth: Halstead
County of birth: Essex
Age at attestation: 18 years
Attestation date: 17 October 1865
Attestation corps: 44th Foot
Attestation soldier number: 998
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 3739 / 113

next of kin given as mother, no marriage or children's details. Discharged 15 Sep 1885.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Jan 2012 12:48

I'm not seeing any likely passenger lists yet - but that doesn't mean there aren't any!

Kerry, what makes you think she originated in England? Could she not have been born in Australia?

I think it's important to find out a bit more about Louisa (if we can) to make sure we find the right father - there are a few Frederick Ridgwell (and variants).

What was her marital status on the marriage certificate?

Where did you get mother's name of Jane from (Louisa's death record says Katherine).

Kerry

Kerry Report 8 Jan 2012 00:49

I have Louisa and William Marriott's marriage certificate

Her father is Frederick P__ford(not legible) Ridgwell Second name does not start with F

Profession: soldier

Her mother is Jane Elizabeth Sta__es(not legible)

Louisa was a Spinster and 29 years old

I have looked in Australia for her but with no luck. I will try again today as there is just something I am not connecting with.

I know we have to keep in mind that the information on some of the certificates could be wrong. I know that can happen because it was only 2 years ago when my mother died, I had to correct her age at death.......Us humans can make a lot of mistakes.

Quoy

Quoy Report 8 Jan 2012 06:07

http://lostfamily.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1287225

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 12 Jan 2012 04:53

I wonder if her father was a bit of a furphy...

Just wondering because there is a Louisa REDGEWELL, b. c1871 London, Middlesex in Maldon Union Workhouse in the 1881 census, and in the same workhouse is a Jane REDGEWELL, unmarried, b. c1848 Crixsea, Essex, as a domestic servant.

???

Could explain why her father has been so difficult to locate! Certainly no marriages for Fredk RIDGWELL/RIDGEWELL or similar in England in this timeframe.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 12 Jan 2012 05:00

Saw your other thread with Wm & Elizabeth with Louisa b. c1871, living in Chelsea in 1881 - I think this is probably that Louisa's birth

Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
Ridgwell Louisa Harriett Chelsea 1a 255

The one in 1871 in Hampstead is a better match for the one above, in the workhouse.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 12 Jan 2012 05:04

Deaths Mar 1917 (>99%)
Ridgwell Jane 71 Maldon 4a 999

jax

jax Report 12 Jan 2012 06:12

1911 census - household transcription
Person: RIDGWELL, Jane
Address: 5 Spital Road Maldon


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HALL, Henry Alfred Head Married M 47 1864 Job Master Exeter Devon VIEW
HALL, Emma Wife Married
23 years F 44 1867 Maldon Essex VIEW
HALL, Lester Son Single M 20 1891 Fitter At Iron Foundry Maldon Essex VIEW
HALL, Dorothy Daughter Single F 17 1894 Domestic Help Maldon Essex VIEW
HALL, Jane Daughter Single F 15 1896 Domestic Help Maldon Essex VIEW
HALL, Irene Daughter F 13 1898 School Maldon Essex VIEW
HALL, Alice Daughter F 11 1900 School Maldon Essex VIEW
HALL, Marjore Daughter F 7 1904 School Maldon Essex VIEW
HALL, Louis Daughter F 1 1910 Maldon Essex VIEW
RIDGWELL, Jane Boarder Single F 62 1849 Pensioner Instulation Laundress Totham Essex VIEW

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1901 census - household transcription
Person: RIDGWELL, Jane
Address: 58, Thorparch Road, Lambeth


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RIDGWELL, Jane Head Widow F 51 1850
Toppesfield
Essex VIEW
RIDGWELL, Emma Daughter Single F 27 1874 Shirt Machinist
Bethnal Green VIEW
RIDGWELL, Wm H Son Single M 18 1883 Beer Bottler
Bethnal Green VIEW
WALLS, Wm Brother Single M 32 1869 Genl Labourer
Toppesfield
Essex VIEW
RUGGLES, Albert Cousin Single M 22 1879 Genl Labourer
Gt Yeldham
Essex VIEW

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Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 12 Jan 2012 08:27

hmmm...can you see Jane in 1891, jax?

patchem

patchem Report 12 Jan 2012 19:35

Jax's Jane in 1891?
1891 England Census
Jane Ridgewell Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Ridgewell
Gender: Female Where born: Grove, London, England
Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
Town: London County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green East
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Piece: 268 Folio: 121 Page Number: 54
William Ridgewell 47 Sible Hedingham, Essex,
Jane Ridgewell 41
Emma Ridgewell 17
Mary Ann Ridgewell 14
Herbert Ridgewell 8
Ernest Ridgewell 3
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 268; Folio 121; Page 54; GSU roll: 6095378.