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Marriage Certificate help

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NickyB2710

NickyB2710 Report 18 Jan 2012 22:56

Hi,

I am very, very new to this, so apologies if I don't provide all the information needed straight off.

I am searching for birth information on Olive Rouse (middle name unknown). I have found the listing for her marriage to Alec Fielder Poole in Wandsworth in 1922 Vol 1d, page 1039.

I believe she was born in 1903 in the london area, and died between 1985 and 1990. Problem is I have found 2 Olive Rouse's who would fit this, and I am hoping the full marriage certificate would confirm which I was looking for.

Thank you
Nicky

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Jan 2012 22:58

Births Mar 1903--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rouse Olive Kate - Wandsworth 1d 730

Flick

Flick Report 18 Jan 2012 23:00

The marriage will tell you how old she was at the time......and her father's details, assuming she knew them

The only way to see the cert is to buy it.

You can do so by following the link to the GRO from the freebmd record you have found.

It will cost £9.25

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 23:01

London marriages on Ancestry only go to 1921

Flick

Flick Report 18 Jan 2012 23:01

Name: Alec Fielder Poole
Birth Date: 6 Apr 1898
Date of Registration: Dec 1985
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 15
Page: 1320

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Jan 2012 23:02

Hi Nicola and welcome to the GR message boards.


From the death record, Olive had a middle name

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Olive Kate Poole
Name: Olive Kate Poole
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1903
Date of Registration: Jan 1987
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 225



which means this should be her birth

Births Mar 1903 (>99%)
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Rouse Olive Kate Wandsworth 1d 730


Andy

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Jan 2012 23:02

or ...



Births Mar 1904
Rouse Olive Lilian - Marylebone 1a 572


1911
ROUSE OLIVE LILIAN -F -1904- 7- Fulham London

Flick

Flick Report 18 Jan 2012 23:02

Is there a second initial for OLIVE?

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Jan 2012 23:03

Olive family from 1911 census

Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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ROUSE, William Samuel Head Married
29 years M 49 1862 Bricklayer Stoke Newinton London VIEW
ROUSE, Annie Maria Wife Married
29 years F 46 1865 Greengrocer Swaffham Prior Cambs VIEW
ROUSE, William Samuel Son Single M 24 1887 Streatham London VIEW
ROUSE, Margerite Daughter Single F 22 1889 Streatham London VIEW
ROUSE, Gladys Ethel Daughter Single F 20 1891 Streatham London VIEW
ROUSE, Bertie Son Single M 16 1895 Milkman Streatham London VIEW
ROUSE, Cecil John Son Single M 10 1901 Streatham London VIEW
ROUSE, Olivia Kate Daughter Single F 8 1903 Streatham London VIEW
HARRIS, Albert Edward Boarder Single M 39 1872 Painter House Brixton London VIEW
DEANE, Charlo Filex Boarder Single M 60 1851 Greengrocer Assist Norfolk VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2345 Reference:
RG14PN2345 RG78PN78B RD26 SD5 ED60 SN249

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Streatham Enumeration District:
60 Parish:
Wandsworth Borough

Address:
20 Westcote Road Streatham S W County:
London


14 children born 11 living

Andy

Flick

Flick Report 18 Jan 2012 23:05

Name: Olive Kate Poole
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1903
Date of Registration: Jan 1987
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 225


Name: Olive Kate Rouse
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1903
Baptism Date: 22 Feb 1903
Father's Name: William Samuel Rouse
Mother's Name: Annie Maria Rouse
Parish or Poor Law Union: Streatham Park St Alban
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers
____________________________________________________

Name: Oliva Kate Rouse
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Streatham London
Civil parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Westcote Road, Streatham S W
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 60
Piece: 02345
Household Members: Name Age
William Samuel Rouse 49
Anna Maria Rouse 46
William Samuel Rouse 24
Marquite Rouse 22
Gladys Ethel Rouse 20
Bertie Rouse 16
Cecil John Rouse 10
Oliva Kate Rouse 8
Albert Edward Harris 39
Charles Filex Deane 60


Ancestry links the above records........such a useful function on the site

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 23:06

Was she the informant on the death cert for Alec ?

Just wondering if she was still alive in 1985

NickyB2710

NickyB2710 Report 18 Jan 2012 23:10

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I am unsure if she had a middle name. The two options mentioned above are the ones I found. I do know that she had 2 children, but don't know if that would help at all.

Nicky

patchem

patchem Report 18 Jan 2012 23:10

How reliable is your belief that she was born in 1903 and died between 1985 and 1990?
Buying the marriage certificate gives you the Father's name, to help in confirmation of correct family, should remove doubt and guesses.

NickyB2710

NickyB2710 Report 18 Jan 2012 23:13

I believe that she was the informant for Alec.

The Streatham link with Olive Kate is a good one. So I think that is her.

Thanks again, only been looking (or going round in circles!) all day on this.

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Jan 2012 23:13

2 possible children born in Croydon 1923 & 1928.

Andy

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Jan 2012 23:14

Also the possibility that she might have been a widow when she married

NickyB2710

NickyB2710 Report 18 Jan 2012 23:24

Yes the children were born 1923 Joan Poole and 1928 Francis Poole.

I don't think that she was married before, as I remember seeing years ago a story about them in a local paper being child sweethearts when they reached their diamond anniversary.

Flick

Flick Report 18 Jan 2012 23:26

Possible marriage for Olive Lilian

Marriages Dec 1930 (>99%)
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Morris Arthur A Rouse Hammersmith 1a 681
Rouse Olive L Morris Hammersmith 1a 681

AND.................her death

Name: Olive Lilian Morris
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1904
Date of Registration: Aug 2003
Age at Death: 99
Registration district: Kent
Inferred County: Kent
Register number: KDT2
District and Subdistrict: 564/1T
Entry number: 169