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Mike, thank you for your reply, Margaret Davie first husband- Daniel Holland, b1884 Skelmersdale Lancashire d 1916 Home England, marriage 1911 Wigan, one child, Ellen.

Margaret Davies 2cnd marriage-William Clamp b 1889 Warwickshire d 1962 Doncaster st Yorkshire, m 1934 Doncaster.

4 sons, 2 of which surname Clamp, 1 Holland, and Bill/William,d 2002, he was born to my g.uncle WilliamClamp b1889 and Margaret Davies, my info comes from one of the son's b 1928, because of the marriage date Bill was registered as Holland, he knows Bill died 2002, but that is all the info he has.

this is what i am looking for, birth and any details about Bill/William, complicated i know, the mind boggles :-S Thanks, Pam, gatelady.

MarieCeleste, thank you for info, i am gatelady, i am looking for info on Bill Clamp/Holland, he died about 2002. his name could possibly be Wiliam. the info i have, tho not much, is above.
thank you.
Pam.

Ah, Gatelady's tree on Ancestry has this as Daniel's death:

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Daniel Holland
Birth Place: Shelmersdale, Lancs
Death Date: 30 May 1916
Death Location: Home
Enlistment Location: Atherton, Manchester
Rank: DVR.
Regiment: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery
Number: W/3788
Type of Casualty: Died
Theatre of War: Home

If this is Daniel's death:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Name: Daniel Holland
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1933
Age at Death: 48
Registration district: Ormskirk
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1315

... might that be why Margaret and William Clamp didn't marry until 1934?

Am answering my own questions as I go along.

son Bill I presume ....

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Births Jun 1925
Holland William H - Davies - Doncaster 9c 1518


So how do you know this is not Daniel's child ?
Be interesting to see what's written on the birth cert for father.

Is this Margaret's first marriage ?


Marriages Jun 1911 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cunliffe Martha Wigan 8c 18
Davies Margaret Wigan 8c 18
Holland Daniel Wigan 8c 18
Makinson Joshua Wigan 8c 18


and 2nd...


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Marriages Jun 1934

Clamp William - Holland - Doncaster 9c 1966
Holland Margaret -Clamp - Doncaster 9c 1966


So where was son William born ?

Can you give some dates for Margaret's marriage[s] and birth of son William

am going back to Margaret Davies b 1889-1963, unrelated to previous enquiry, Margaret's first husband was Daniel Holland b1884 Skemersdale, Lancashire, this is complicated !! Margaret and William Clamp b1889 warwick, had a child out of wedlock, Bill Clamp birth unknown, died ab 2002, was registered in the name of Bill Holland, although born to William Clamp, , can anybody solve this please :-S also, i do not know Margaret Davies parents ?? i know is a tall order, maybe too much, but am clutchin at straws now.

thanks
Pam

hi brumiejan, myatt originated at Staffordshire

Ours are B'ham/Black Country

hi Jan, Myatt family live in Doncaster

Pam

Interesting! Whereabouts?
Jan

hi, brummliejan, my hubby , his mum belongs to Myatt tree, x

thank you for the info, i didn't think it would be possible, but i had to try :-)

Dont see how anyone can tell you that.

You could try the local records office to see if he is on any electoral rolls .

Pam, have you tried looking for matches on here by using 'search trees' above? You might find other descendants if you are lucky.
Otherwise, the only other thing I can think of is to check electoral registers for the addresses in the two places he lived and see when he was living there. This is really mainly useful 1919 onwards when all men over 21 got the vote. This has to be done in person at the nearest main library, though you can ask the staff for a lookup - they will probably charge.
Jan

My g.uncle William Clamp b1889 Warwickshire, d 1962 Askern, Doncaster, sth Yorks. His first wife was Florence E Heath bStaffordshire, married 1913 Tamworth. second wife Margaret Davies b 1889 Lancashire d 1963 Askern Doncaster. marriage, 1934 Doncaster, STh Yorkshire.1 living son born Askern 1928, 1 son b 1929 d 1993 Bridlington.1911 census shows William living at Cambridge st, Moorthorpe, sth elmsall, along with his brother, my grandfather.
the question i am asking is can anybody tell me what year William left sth elmsall to live in Askern, if this is possible.

Thank you, Pam.