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Cheese Family Brynmawr, Breconshire

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Katie

Katie Report 6 Feb 2012 12:53

Hello,

I'd be grateful for some assistance in finding the parents of my partners Grandmother. He doesn't have much information here is what we know:

His grandmother is:
Frances Mary Susan Cheese b.01/04/1915 - d.14/04/1975 (Married: Hugh Jones b.08/03/1917 - d.29/12/1980 Children: Beryl (oldest?), Jennifer (middle) and Phillip Hugh Jones b.04/10/1952 - d.28/12/2009)
She had two sisters:
Edna Cheese b.1910 - d.13/08/1991
Elisabeth Ann Cheese b.1912 - d.29/03/2006

I'm not sure where they were born, possibly Crickhowell, Brecon but I think they all died around Brynmawr, Brecon all are currently buried in Gilwern, Monmouthshire.

Would also like to trace my partners grandfather's (Hugh Jones) parents but with minimal information searching for a Jones in Wales is difficult.

I'd be greatful for any help as all the info we have is from thier gravestones.

Many thanks,
Katie

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Feb 2012 12:57

What is the mothers maiden name against the births ?

This can be found on FreeBMD ?

Do you have any certs ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Feb 2012 12:59

1911 poss

CHEESE, John Head Married M 33 1878 Coal Miner Hewer Brynmawr Brec VIEW
CHEESE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1883 Craven Arans Shropshire VIEW
CHEESE, Edna Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Brynmawr Breconshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
33599 Reference:
RG14PN33599 RG78PN1935 RD611 SD3 ED7 SN207

Registration District:
Crickhowell Sub District:
Llanelly Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Brynmawr

Address:
6 Greenland Road Brynmawr

Kuros

Kuros Report 6 Feb 2012 13:01

Name: Ann Elizabeth Cheese
Age in 1911: 4/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil parish: Aberystruth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: 4 Winches Town Nantyglo Mon
Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration District Number: 585
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Household schedule number: 132
Piece: 31822
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Cheese 36
Martha Cheese 33
Edith Cheese 10
Enid Cheese 8
David Wm Cheese 6
Bronwen Cheese 4
Winefred Cheese 2
Ann Elizabeth Cheese 4/12
Ann Jones 66
Evan Arthur Jones 35

I think these from 1911 will be related somehow. Nantyglo is joined on to Brynmawr. Some parts which were in Crickhowell district later became Monmouthshire.

Katie

Katie Report 6 Feb 2012 13:03

I think there is the potential that Frances Cheese's Mother may have been an Allen by birth, not sure how reliable that piece of information is tho!

Thanks you for your speedy responses!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Feb 2012 13:03

Elizabeth seems to be registered in Dec 1911

Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Feb 2012 13:05

Marriage
Mary Elizabeth Allen Jul-Aug-Sep 1909 Crickhowell Breconshire
View Record
John Henry Che* Jul-Aug-Sep 1909 Crickhowell Breconshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Feb 2012 13:10

Good spot Thelma for the marriage

I think this might be his birth

Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
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Cheese John Henry Crickhowell 11b 133

K

K Report 6 Feb 2012 13:13

Re Henry Jones - His marrage to Francis Cheese lists him with a middle name of W so I wonder if this is him born in 1917 in the same Reg District as the Cheese's

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Jones Hugh W Presdee Crickhowell 11b 152

Edit - this is the only marriage that I can see in the area

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
>>>JONES Hugh Wesley Crickhowell 11b 182
Nash Joseph Crickhowell 11b 182
>>Presdee Georgina Crickhowell 11b 182
Williams Hannah Jane Crickhowell 11b 182

Katie

Katie Report 6 Feb 2012 13:17

Wow you guys are amazing!!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Feb 2012 13:19

1911 poss
JONES, Hugh Wesley Head Married M 32 1879 Coal Miner Below Ground Brynmawr Breconshire VIEW
JONES, Georgina Wife Married
8 years F 30 1881 Brynmawr Breconshire VIEW
JONES, Sarah Evelyn Daughter Single F 7 1904 School Brynmawr Breconshire VIEW
JONES, Thomas Son Single M 6 1905 School Brynmawr Breconshire VIEW
JONES, Anewrin Son Single M 4 1907 Brynmawr Breconshire VIEW
JONES, Josiah Son Single M 1 1910 Brynmawr Breconshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
33600 Reference:
RG14PN33600 RG78PN1935 RD611 SD3 ED8 SN50

Registration District:
Crickhowell Sub District:
Llanelly Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Brynmawr

Address:
46 Bailey St Brynmawr



BUT you are going to need the certs to check any info on this thread

Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Feb 2012 15:28

1901 Wales Census
about Elizabeth Allen Name: Elizabeth Allen
Age in 1901: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Ann Allen
Gender: Female
Where born: Craven Arms, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Llanelly
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanelly St Elliog
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Crickhowell
Sub-registration district: Llanelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 5173
Folio: 20
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Allen 53
Walter Allen 28
David Allen 24
Sarah Allen 21
Elizabeth Allen 18
George Allen 16
James Allen 12
Sarah Lloyd 17



Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Feb 2012 15:28

1891 Wales Census
about Elizabeth Allen Name: Elizabeth Allen
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Allen
Mother's name: Ann Allen
Gender: Female
Where born: Craven Armo, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Llanelly
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanelly
Town: Aberbaiden
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Crickhowell
Sub-registration district: Llanelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4576
Folio: 4
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
James Allen 56
Ann Allen 43
Walter Allen 18
Maggie Allen 16
David Allen 14
Sarah Allen 11
Elizabeth Allen 8
George Allen 6
James Allen 2





Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Feb 2012 15:36

1881 Halford Shropshire
James Allen abt 1836 Thrapstone, Northamptonshire, England Head
Anne Allen abt 1847 Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales Wife
Walter Allen abt 1873 Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales Son
Margret Allen abt 1875 Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales Daughter
Davied T. Allen abt 1877 Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales Son
Sarah Ann Allen abt 1880 Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales Daughter

Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Feb 2012 16:01

1901 Wales Census
about John H Cheese Name: John H Cheese
Age in 1901: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Cheese
Mother's name: Elizabeth Cheese
Gender: Male
Where born: Brynmawr, Breconshire, Wales

Civil parish: Aberystruth
Ecclesiastical parish: Nant y glo Holy Trinity
Town: Nant Y Glo
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 4933
Folio: 140
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
William Cheese 55
Elizabeth Cheese 54
John H Cheese 23
Abraham Cheese 20
Elizabeth Cheese 18



Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Feb 2012 16:02

1891 Wales Census
about John Cheese Name: John Cheese
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Cheese
Mother's name: Elizabeth Cheese
Gender: Male
Where born: Breconshire, Wales

Civil parish: Aberystruth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St John Holy Trinity
Town: Nantyglo and Blaina
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4351
Folio: 85
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Cheese 46
Elizabeth Cheese 45
James Cheese 19
Albert Cheese 16
John Cheese 13
Abraham Cheese 11
Elizabeth Cheese 7
Elizabeth Bromage 70



Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Feb 2012 16:04

1881 Wales Census
about John Henry Ghees Name: John Henry Ghees
[John Henry Cheese]
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Ghees
Mother's name: Elizabeth Ghees
Gender: Male
Where born: Breconshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llangunider
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Rassau
Education: View image
Employment status: View image

Registration district: Crickhowell
Sub-registration district: Llangunider
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5463
Folio: 36
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
William Ghees 30
Elizabeth Ghees 30
James Ghees 9
Albert Edward Ghees 7
John Henry Ghees 4
Abram Ghees 1