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23 Feb 2012 10:43 |
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Birth of Albert Edward Orme - Son of Thomas & Louisa nee Flowers:
Name: Albert Edward Orme Date of Birth: 26 Sep 1870 Gender: Male Birth County or District: Haldimand Father's Name: Thomas G Orme Mother's name: Louisa E Flowers
Birth of Minnie Bell Orme - daughter of Thomas and Louisa nee Flowers:
Name: Minnie Bell Orme Date of Birth: 29 May 1876 Gender: Female Birth County or District: Haldimand Father's Name: Thomas Orme Mother's name: Louisa Flowers
Birth of Emma Louise Orme - daughter ot Thomas and Louisa nee Flowers:
Name: Emma Louisa Orme Date of Birth: 18 Feb 1878 Gender: Female Birth County or District: Haldimand Father's Name: Thomas Graham Orme Mother's name: Louisa Eleonor Flowers
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21 Feb 2012 16:58 |
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Although the page of census links I gave earlier does not list AG for 1852, it is gettable via the 1901 AG link. You'll get a hit headed by something like (exactly like, here):
Home / 1852 / Canada West / Haldimand (county) / 110 Moulton township / p. 3d, 4a, (7) Split view
Now you can click the "split view" link and get an image for the main page (4a), but it's actually followed 3 more pages (4b/c, 4d(/5a) two images). Usually, they're not too interesting, but...? So to get these look up the header stuff in the LAC geographical link (i.e., district=Haldimand + subdistrict#=110) That way, you can get to the extra pages. (NB doing the same LAC thing in 1901 gets hits for Sched 1 & Sched 2 - you need to look up Sched 1 first, to get the page & line #s to look up in Sched 2)
1861 is too geeky to explain easily, so I've just given the Stevens hits. This census also has an extra following page which can be gotten by just editting the URLs I give (e.g., changing the final 00301.pdf to 00302.pdf in the first one, etc.).
1861 in Haldimand http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108073_00301.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108073_00327.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108073_00333.pdf
You can use the LAC links to search 1871, 1881, 1891 (for Stevens in Monck) - e.g.: 1871 in Monck http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396331_00313.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396331_00307.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396331_00197.pdf
The Dominion of Canada was only formed in 1867. Before that, there was a united province of Canada - Ontario/Quebec were then known as Upper/Lower Canada or else as Canada West/East depending on year.
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Lynne From Up North !!
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20 Feb 2012 23:05 |
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Birth of son Allen:
Name: Allen Stevens Date of Birth: 9 Jan 1870 Gender: Male Birth County or District: Haldimand Father's Name: Albert Stevens - Millage Albert Stevens Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jamieson - born in Ireland
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Lynne From Up North !!
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20 Feb 2012 22:53 |
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Bingo, a little closer to finding Millage's first wife:
Birth of daughter Medelia Stevens:
Name: Medelia Stevens Date of Birth: 30 Mar 1872 Gender: Female Birth County or District: Haldimand Father's Name: Millage A Stevens Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jemison
Second marriage of Millage: 9455-75 Millage Albert STEVENS, 35, widower, harness maker, USA, Dunnville, s/o Robert & Ann, married Mary NOBLE, 32, Ireland, Dunnville, d/o Andrew & Mary, witn: James McLAUGHLIN & A. McCLELLAND, both of Welland, 25 Oct. 1875 at Welland (also 11387-76)
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Lynne From Up North !!
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20 Feb 2012 22:23 |
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Found Milage A Stevens with his first wife Elizabeth during the 1871 Canadian Census:
Name: Milage A Stevens Gender: Male Age: 31 Birth Year: abt 1840 Birth Place: Ontario Marital Status: Married Religion: Weslyan Methodist Origin: English Province: Ontario District: Monck District Number: 18 Division: 01 Subdistrict: Dunnville Subdistrict Number: b Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Milage A Stevens 31 Elizabeth Stevens 27 Arthur Stevens 7 - this is Albert Arthur Stevens, he married Mary C Orme Edward Stevens 6 Walter Stevens 3 Allen Stevens 1 Margt Clow 18 John Swingle Source Citation: Year: 1871; Census Place: Dunnville, Monck, Ontario; Roll: C-9918; Page: 35; Family No: 139.
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Lynne From Up North !!
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20 Feb 2012 22:19 |
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Evening,
Sorry for delay, been at work all day and just had time to look at the Canadian Census, I know it dosen't answer your puzzle, however I have managed to find Millage Albert Stevens on the 1851 Canadian Census with his parents Robert born United States and Ann born England along with 6 siblings, two born in the States all the rest born in Canada. Millage's name is shown as Milledge A Stevens.
Name: Robert Stevens Gender: Male Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Birthplace: United States Province: Canada West (Ontario) District: Haldimand County District Number: 13 Sub-District: Moulton Sub-District Number: 110 Household Members: Name Age Robert Stevens 40
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20 Feb 2012 15:25 |
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mgnv
OMG! havent you been busy!
Thankyou so much
I was going to take today off from research and gather my brain cells as i'm starting night work tonight but after all your hard work and info it looks like i'll be in in numpty mode tonight lol It's a good job i can delegate lol
Many thanks again mgnv :-D
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20 Feb 2012 11:07 |
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1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 45 Dunnville / page 1 1 1 Orme T G M Head M May 1874 37 2 1 Orme Flavia M F Wife Dec 1880 31 3 1 Orme Helen M. F Daughter S Apr 1905 6 4 1 Cowell Emma F Boarder S May 1902 19? 5 1 Roberts Gertrude F Boarder S Mar 1901 18? ---------------------- 43 13 Orme John W. M Head M Mar 1866 45 44 13 Orme Bella F Wife M Sep 1867 43 45 13 Orme Thos. G M Son S Apr 1893 18 46 13 Orme Marin M F Daughter S Aug 1898 12 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989892.pdf
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 45 Dunnville / page 8 20 101 Coverdale John C M Head M Jul 1874 37 21 101 Coverdale Louise E? F Wife M Feb 1877 34 22 101 Coverdale Minie E? F Daughter S Jun 1898 13 23 101 Coverdale Thelma M F Daughter S Oct 1900 11 24 101 Coverdale William O M Son S Feb 1903 8 25 101 Coverdale Muriel M F Daughter S Oct 1906 5 26 101 Law Frances F Domestic S Nov 1893 18 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989899.pdf
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 44 Dunnville / page 4 42 47 Oreme Louise F Head W Mar 1837 74 43 47 Stevens Lina M Grandson S Sep 1895 15 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989879.pdf [d.o.immig=1842]
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 44 Dunnville / page 7 34 87 Orme George M Head M Aug 1873 37 35 87 Orme Mary J. F Wife M Jan 1873 38 36 87 Orme George Edwin M Son S Apr 1902 8 37 87 Orme Frank W. M Son S Jan 1906 5 38 87 Orme Gordon R. M Son S Jan 1908 3 39 87 Newthy? Charlotte F Domestic S Dec 1884 17 40 87 Boughoner Elizabeth F Lodger W Jun 1828 83 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989882.pdf
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 44 Dunnville / page 10 18 122 McCutcheon Thomas M Head M Jun 1875 35 19 122 McCutcheon Minnie F Wife M May 1876 35 20 122 McCutcheon Thomas M Son S Nov 1904 7 21 122 Briwack Millie F Domestic S Dec 1892 19 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989885.pdf
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Kent East / 44 Ridgetown / page 2 29 25 Brien George M Head M Dec 1862 48 1901 Links 30 25 Brien Nellie F Wife M Jun 1860 50 1901 Links 31 25 Brien Nellie F Daughter S Aug 1893 19 1901 Links 32 25 Brien Gertrude F Daughter S May 1897 13 1901 Links 33 25 Brien Georgana F Daughter S Sep 1902 9 1901 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001995556.pdf
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20 Feb 2012 11:06 |
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You can search censuses using links at: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html#il
Actually, Ancestry has a better search facility, so it's often worth looking there first, even if you don't have full access (I don't).
1871 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396331_00329.pdf
1881 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008188219.pdf
1891 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148156-00239.pdf Maria http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148136-00334.pdf Maria http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148136-00335.pdf
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON HALDIMAND & MONCK (#67) Subdistrict: Dunnville (Village) G-3 Page 6 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6470 41 72 Orme Louisa F Head W Mar 5 1834 66 42 72 Orme George M Son S Aug 8 1872 28 43 72 Orme Minnie F Daughter S May 29 1876 24 44 72 Stevens Arthur M Grandson S Sep 6 1895 5 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066227.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066219.pdf Subdistrict: Dunnville (Village) G-3 Page 7 25 80 Orme Thomas M Head M May 24 1873 27 26 80 Orme Flavia F Wife M Oct 8 1880 20 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066228.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066219.pdf [Sched2 same as above] Subdistrict: Dunnville (Village) G-1 Page 7 8 67 Orme John M Head M Apr 10 1866 34 9 67 Orme Bella F Wife M Sep 27 1867 33 10 67 Orme Thos M Son S Apr 15 1893 7 11 67 Orme Marrian F Daughter S Aug 20 1897 3 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066189.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066180.pdf
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON HAMILTON (City/Cité) (#69) Subdistrict: Ward/Quartier No. 3 C-10 Page 14 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6471 36 143 Coverdale Charles J M Head M Jul 30 1873 27 37 143 Coverdale Lueise F Wife M Feb 18 1878 23 38 143 Coverdale Minnie F Daughter S Jun 1898 2 39 143 Coverdale Thelma F Daughter S Oct 10 1899 1 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000067847.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000067832.pdf [I can't read addy]
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON ELGIN (West/Ouest) (#58) Subdistrict: Ridgetown (Town/Ville) F-1 Page 1 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6465 1 1 Brien George R. M Head M Nov 14 1863 38 2 1 Brien Julia E. F Wife M Jun 14 1860 40 3 1 Brien Nellie F Daughter S Sep 21 1891 9 4 1 Brien Gertrude F Daughter S May 26 1899 2 5 1 Stevens Gerald M Adopted/son S May 26 1886 14 6 1 Campbell Katie F Domestic S Aug 9 1880 20 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000059749.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000059746.pdf
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20 Feb 2012 11:03 |
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Gerri - you really must make the most of Monday - the last day of free Ancestry Ontario BMDs
Here's some you should check out (with images):
Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913 about Emma Louisa Orme Name: Emma Louisa Orme Date of Birth: 18 Feb 1878 Gender: Female Birth County or District: Haldimand Father's Name: Thomas Graham Orme Mother's Name: Louisa Eleonor Flowers [image shows a delayed rego, made 22/3/1945 - informant is sis Minnie B McCutcheon] [Thos pob=Niagara Falls (US, I think) Lou pob=Yorkshire]
Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about Louisa Orme Name: Louisa Orme Death Date: 20 Dec 1926 Death County or District: Haldimand Age: 90 Gender: Female Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Birth Location: England [d/o John Flowers + Mary Bickerdite]
Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about Thomas G Orme Name: Thomas G Orme Death Date: 9 Aug 1881 Death County or District: Haldimand Age: 47 Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Search for Orme d/o Tho* & Lou* View Record Name Spouse Name Marriage Date Marriage Location View Image View Record Maria Orme Joseph Bowman 25 Jan 1887 Haldimand View Record Mary C Orme Albert A Stevens 18 Oct 1885 Lincoln View Record John Orme Bella Mcdonald 8 Oct 1891 Lincoln View Record George Henry Orme Mary Evelyn Wilhinson 25 Jun 1902 Wentworth View Record Thomas Graham Orme Flavia May Mcindoe 25 Oct 1899 Haldimand View Record Minnie Belle Orme Thos John Mccutcheon 16 Oct 1907 Haldimand
View Record Name Birth Date Gender Birth County or District Father's Name Mother's Name View Image View Record Albert Edward Orme 26 Sep 1870 Male Haldimand Thomas G Orme Louisa E Flowers View Record Minnie Bell Orme 29 May 1876 Female Haldimand Thomas Orme Louisa Flowers View Record Emma Louisa Orme 18 Feb 1878 Female Haldimand Thomas Graham Orme Louisa Eleonor Flowers -------------------- View Record Gertude Maria Brien 26 May 1898 Female Kent George R Brien Nellie Orme View Record Georgina Evangeline Brien 22 Sep 1902 Female Kent George Brien Nellie Orme -------------------- View Record Wm Oemo Bowman 3 Aug 1889 Male Kent Joseph H Bowman Maria Orme View Record Earl Joseph Bowman 2 Aug 1893 Male Kent Joseph Bowman Maria Orme View Record Gordon Elden Bowman 24 Jul 1896 Male Kent Joseph Bowman Maria Orme -------------------- View Record Thomas Gordon Orme 15 Apr 1893 Male Haldimand John Wesley Orme Isabella Mc Donald View Record Marion Madeline Orme 20 Aug 1898 Female Haldimand John Orme Belle Mcdonald -------------------- View Record Gladys Gertrude Orme 28 Jan 1910 Female Haldimand Thomas Graham Orme Flavia May Mcindoe -------------------- View Record Minnie Ellenor Coverdale 2 Jun 1898 Female Haldimand John Charles Coverdale Emma Louise Orme View Record Murriel Mary Annetta Coverdale 21 Oct 1905 Female Haldimand John Charles Coverdale Louisa Emma Orme -------------------- View Record Thomas Orme Mccutcheon 24 Nov 1903 Male Haldimand Thomas J Mccutcheon Minnie Orme View Record Lloyd Eldon Mccutcheon 17 Jan 1906 Male Haldimand Thomas J Mccutcheon Minnie B Orme --------------------
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Lynne From Up North !!
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19 Feb 2012 23:30 |
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No Problem.
I'm off to bed shortly, but will take a look tomorrow.
Lynne
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19 Feb 2012 22:58 |
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Lynne If you really want a puzzle....see below...
: Millage Albert Stevens Birth Place: United States Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Father Name: Robert Stevens Mother Name: Ann Stevens Spouse Name: Mary Noble Spouse's Age: 32 Spouse Birth Place: Ireland Spouse Father Name: Andrew Noble Spouse Mother Name: Mary Noble Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1875 Marriage County or District: Welland
When you view the original it says he was a widower. Who was the 1st Wife?
Have fun lol
Gerri
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Lynne From Up North !!
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19 Feb 2012 22:55 |
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Marriage of John Orme, brother of Mary:
Name: John Orme Birth Place: Dunnville, Ontario Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Father Name: Thomas Orme Mother Name: Louisa Orme Spouse Name: Bella Mcdonald Spouse's Age: 23 Spouse Birth Place: Dunnville, Ontario Spouse Father Name: Denis Mcdonald Spouse Mother Name: Mary Mcdonald Marriage Date: 8 Oct 1891 Marriage County or District: Lincoln
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19 Feb 2012 22:43 |
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Already got that one Lynne :-P lol
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Lynne From Up North !!
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19 Feb 2012 22:40 |
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Mary;s Marriage:
Name: Mary C Orme Birth Place: Dunnville, Ontario Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Father Name: Thomas Orme Mother Name: Louise Ne Flowers Orme Spouse Name: Albert A Stevens Spouse's Age: 22 Spouse Birth Place: Dunnville, Ontario Spouse Father Name: Millage A Stevens Spouse Mother Name: Eliza Ne Jamison Stevens Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1885 Marriage County or District: Lincoln
1901 Canadian census for Mary Stevens nee Orme:
Name: Mary Stevens Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Age: 38 Birth Day & Month: 11 Mar Birth Year: 1863 Birthplace: Ontario Relation to Head of House: Wife Racial or Tribal Origin: English Nationality: Canadian Religion: Presbyterian Occupation: Confect Province: Ontario District: Hamilton (city/cité) District Number: 69 Sub-District: Hamilton (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 4 Sub-District Number: D-6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Stevans 46 Mary Stevens 38 Alberta Stevens 13
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Lynne From Up North !!
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19 Feb 2012 22:25 |
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You're welcome.
Lynne :-D
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19 Feb 2012 22:20 |
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Thanks again Lynne from oop norf from me down sauff ;-)
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Lynne From Up North !!
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19 Feb 2012 22:05 |
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Possible departure for Louisa Flowers, mother of Mary:
Name: Louisa Flower Arrival Date: 29 May 1843 Birth Year: abt 1835 Age: 8 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Virginia Search Ship Database: Search the Virginia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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Lynne From Up North !!
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19 Feb 2012 21:51 |
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Mary's sister - Louisa's Birth Registration:-
Name: Emma Louisa Orme Date of Birth: 18 Feb 1878 Gender: Female Birth County or District: Haldimand Father's Name: Thomas Graham Orme - born Niagra Falls Mother's Name: Louisa Eleonor Flowers - born Yorkshire, England
Death record of Mary's Parents:
Name: Louisa E. Orme Death Location: Haldimand, Ontario Burial Place: Haldimand, Ontario Notes: Thomas G. Orme Died July 31st 1881. In the 49 Year Of His Age ----- His Wife Louisa E. Flowers Died Dec. 20th 1926 In The 91 Year of Her Age ORME
Marriage of Mary's Parents: Name: Louisa L. Flowers Birth Place: England Residence: Dunnville Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Father Name: John Flowers Mother Name: Mary Flowers Spouse Name: Thomas Orme Spouse's Age: 26 Spouse Birth Place: Lockport NY Spouse Residence: Dunnville Spouse Father Name: Thomas Orme Spouse Mother Name: Martha Orme Marriage Date: 1 Aug 1859 Marriage County or District: Haldimand
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19 Feb 2012 21:31 |
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Lynne From Up North !! Your a treasure! Huge thankyou x
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