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I'll go do those dishes now........ :-( :-(

Maureen

Catherine,Maureen,
Thats lots of information to sieve through
it will keep be busy for awhile :-)
Thank you
Eric

Ah Ah!!
I was beginning to think that she was a professional witness employed by the registry office.
We know why John became a Ginger Beer Maker now.
Once again Maureen comes up trumps. :-D

This will be the famous Elizabeth Wright:
1851 census transcription details for: 97, Adam Street, Rotherhithe, Southwark
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1583 Folio: 118 Page: 44

Reg. District: Rotherhithe Sub District: Rotherhithe
WRIGHT, Charles Head Married M 32 1819 Ginger Beer Manufacturer
Finsbury
Surrey
WRIGHT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1820
Bishopsgate
Surrey
BANKER, (Hawkes on image)John Brother In Law Unmarried M 21 1830 General Labourer
Spitalfields
Surrey
BANKER, (Hawkes)Abraham Brother In Law Unmarried M 75 1776 General Labourer
Spitalfields
Surrey

Maureen

This would be the above couple in 1861:-


1861 England Census about John Hawkes

Name:John Hawkes
Age:30
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1831
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Sarah Hawkes
Gender:Male
Where born:Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Civil parish:Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish:Trinity
County/Island:Surrey
Country:England
Street Address:

Occupation: Ginger Beer Maker

Registration district:Rotherhithe
Sub-registration district:Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel:9
Household schedule number:63
Piece:390
Folio:38
Page Number:11
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hawkes 30
Sarah Hawkes 31
Hannah Hawkes 7


and


1871 England Census about John Hawkes

Name:John Hawkes
Age:41
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1830
Relation:Head
Occupation: Ginger Beer Maker
Spouse's Name:Sarah Hawkes
Gender:Male
Where born:Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Civil parish:Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish:St Mary
County/Island:Surrey
Country:England
Registration district:St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district:Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel:5
Household schedule number:117
Piece:642
Folio:127
Page Number:21
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hawkes 41
Sarah Hawkes 41
Hannah Hawkes 17 (niece)

Drives you crazy! On Abraham's marriage William is a mariner!

Maureen

If 1841 is the family, then this looks to be brother John's marriage:-


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Hawkes

Name:John Hawkes
Age:23
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1829
Occupation:- Ginger Beer Maker
Spouse Name:Sarah Sealey
Spouse Age:22
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:18 Apr 1852
Parish:Bethnal Green St Philip
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Father Name:William Hawkes
occupation:- Umbrella Maker
Spouse Father Name:Jacob Sealey
Register Type:Parish Register

Witnesses:- George Bradley
xxxx Elizabeth Wright xxxx

Problem is, father is William Hawkes, but he is an umbrella maker and is not noted as deceased?

Maureen
WOW! Thats Brilliant
Thank you
Eric

LOL!! You sure know how to cheer a person up,Catherine!
I'm still facing the dirty breakfast dishes!

Maureen

Hello Maureen,
Well done that looks good to me!

~~~~~~~~~from gay Paris

1841 census transcription details for: Quaker Street Pope's Head Court Harris's Place, Christchurch, Tower Hamlets
RG number: HO107 Piece: 710 Book/Folio: 3/28 Page: 14

Reg. District: Whitechapel Sub District: Spitalfields
MASON, James M 45 1796 Middlesex
MASON, Mary F 45 1796 Middlesex
HAWKES, William M 20 1821 Middlesex
HAWKES, James M 15 1826 Middlesex
HAWKES, John M 13 1828 Middlesex
HAWKES, Matilda F 15 1826 Middlesex
HAWKES, Abraham M 5 1836 Middlesex


1851 census transcription details for: 12, Quaker Street, Christchurch, Tower Hamlets
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1543 Folio: 292 Page: 49

Reg. District: Whitechapel Sub District: Spitalfields
MASON, James Head Married M 60 1791 Labourer
Westminster
MASON, Mary Wife Married F 56 1795
Borough
...............
1851 census transcription details for: 13, Quaker Street, Christchurch, Tower Hamlets
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1543 Folio: 292 Page: 48

Reg. District: Whitechapel Sub District: Spitalfields
HAWKES, William Head Married M 30 1821 Umbrella Maker
Bishops Gate
HAWKES, Mary Wife Married F 28 1823 Umbrella Maker
Finsbury
HAWKES, William Son Unmarried M 7 1844 Scholar
Shoreditch
HAWKES, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848
Tower Hamlets
HAWKES, Charles Son Unmarried M 0 (11 MOS) 1851
Tower Hamlets
Middlesex


Maureen

Thanks Maureen
Eric

Oh,good job,Catherine!

Have a look at this marriage then:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Mary Ann Hawkes
Name: Mary Ann Hawkes
Spouse Name: James Mason
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 May 1840
Parish: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: William Harvey
Spouse Father Name: James Mason
Register Type: Parish Register

I wonder if it's the mother re-marrying? One of the witnesses (Elizabeth Wright???) seems to be the same as on James and Caroline's marriage.

Maureen

Catherine,
That's Great Thank you
Eric

.........................this would fit with the info on ancestry tree:-


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Hawkes

Name:William Hawkes
Spouse Name:Mary Harvey
Record Type:Banns
Event Date:11 Oct 1812
Parish:Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Register Type:Parish Register

...maybe worth keeping just in case?

Catherine,
Wow thanks :-)
Eric

Tree on ancestry has this:-

James Hawkes
Birth: Abt 1821 - London, London, England
Marriage: 18 Jun 1848 - St John
Parents: William Hawkes, Mary Ann Harvey
Spouse: Caroline Guinn

Reggie,
Many Thanks
Eric

On the marriage cert William was 'deceased'

Occupation said to have been 'Painter'

The baptism of the son wouldn't tell you any more about the father, unfortunately.

However, it doesn't appear to be on Ancestry...........

James Hawkes b1923

Hi,
i am doing some research for a friend and
I just wondered if anyone can look up a birth record for me.

James Hawkes born 1823 London City Bishopsgate
I would like some information on his Father William Hawkes.
Only information I have is the reference on James marriage certificate.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about James Hawkes
Name: James Hawkes
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Spouse Name: Caroline Guinn
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 18 Jun 1848
Parish: St John the Baptist, Hoxton
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: William Hawkes
Spouse Father Name: William Guinn

Kind regards
Eric