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Peter

Peter Report 13 Mar 2012 14:06

Is there anybody going to Kew in the near future and if so would be willing to do a look-up(army record) for me please.

Mark

Mark Report 13 Mar 2012 14:40

If it is relating to ww1 can it not be found via Ancestry - Just a thought

Peter

Peter Report 13 Mar 2012 16:32

WW1army service records are held at Kew.

Mark

Mark Report 13 Mar 2012 16:41

ok. I find my ancestor on ancestry.co.uk

Good Luck

Gee

Gee Report 13 Mar 2012 16:47

Peter

Surving records have been scanned and are also available on Ancestry.

If you want some help, just post the details of your ancestor

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Mar 2012 18:12

British Army WWI Medal Rolls -
Royal Naval Division Casualties -
British Army WWI Pensions - Updated!
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

(above on Ancestry)



Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913

(above on Find My Past)


Chris :)

Peter

Peter Report 13 Mar 2012 22:40

Have tried all the above siteswithout any success. I have got the following info.from "Find my past" of the person I am looking for:-
Eli Benjamin HORNER,d.o.b.1871,served in the Boer War 1899-1902, as a private 613 in the coldstream guards,1st.&2nd.bats. Roll No.164 & 318,national archives WO 100 series.
The roll numbers are for medals awarded.
thank you all for your interest and my request for a look-up at Kew..

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 14 Mar 2012 07:21

'Guards' rang bells....

From the NA guide 'British Army soldiers up to 1913: further research'

"Records of the Guards regiments (Coldstream, Grenadier, Irish, Scots and Welsh Guards) are accessible by writing to the Guards Regimental Headquarters, Wellington Barracks, Birdcage Walk, London SW1E 6HQ. Some of these records were destroyed by enemy bombing whilst stored in the Guards chapel during the Second World War."

Chris

Gee

Gee Report 14 Mar 2012 07:31

Peter

That record you are after is available to buy oline from the NA for £3.50


Description Name Horner, Eli Benjamin
Official Number: 138747
Place of Birth: Mundham, Sussex

Date 12 September 1871
Catalogue reference ADM 188/192
Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services
Piece 138501 - 139000
Image contains 1 document of many for this catalogue reference


Number of image files: 1


Image Reference Format and Version Part Number Size (KB) Number of Pages Price (£)
247 / 240 PDF 1.2 1 176 1 3.50
Total Price £ 3.50



http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=7335720

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 14 Mar 2012 07:37

UK, Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1972

Name: Eli Benjamin Horner
Medal or Award: Queen's South Africa Medal and King's South Africa Medal
Service Year: 1899
Service Location: South Africa
Campaign or Service: Anglo-Boer War
Ship Name: Terrible
Source Citation: Class: ADM 171; Piece: 54.
Officers and men of the Naval and Marine Brigade who served ashore South Africa with the naval guns

This is strange....The image is not a medal roll but a pay list :-S

And this man is in the Navy not the Guards???

I will send Peter the image so he can make up his own mind if it is the right man...Does name his mother and an address.

Chris



Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 14 Mar 2012 07:38

And it is the same man as Gins has found!

Chris

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Mar 2012 07:51

Boer War 1899-1902 - Soldier details (Find My Past)

Name: HORNER, E
Rank: Private
Soldier number: 613
Unit: Coldstream Guards
Notes: The Queen's South Africa (QSA) Medal Clasps: Belmont, Modder River, Dreifontein, Transvaal
The Kings's South Africa (KSA) Medal Clasps: South Africa 1901, South Africa 1902
Age:
Literary references:
Medal roll (from National Archives WO100 series):
Roll Page
164 0 CGNEW 1
318 0 CGNEW 1

(not seeing one with Benjamin in!)

Chris :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Mar 2012 07:59

Medal card of Horner, Edward ?...
Corps Regiment No Rank
Coldstream Guards 613 Private

Date 1914-1920
Catalogue reference WO 372/10

(as above on National Archives Medal Index)

Chris :)

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 14 Mar 2012 08:04

Right I have found two images for the man Chris has found but both only refer to 'E Horner'.

Not Eli then Chris, both the images I have are for service number 613 that must be Edward.

Peter if you want these images for any reason then please send me a PM and I will send them to you.

Chris

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Mar 2012 08:11

Lol, hoping it's one or the other!.

Chris :)

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 14 Mar 2012 08:15

OH NO!!!!

Chris there's another one

UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949
Name: E B Horner
Campaign or Service: South Africa - Second Boer War
Service Date: 1899-1902
Service Location: South Africa
Regimental Number: 138747
Royal Navy, City of London Imperial Volunteers

Died of Fever 5 Feb 1900

Again 2 images so let me know if you want these Peter.

Chris

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Mar 2012 08:18

Aah!...well that must be him then!, hopefully Regt. number will help with further searches!.

Chris :)

edits (same number as on post by Ginny!)

Peter

Peter Report 14 Mar 2012 15:33

Well what can I say,except thanks again for all your help in sorting things out because I failed to realise that there was a Edward Horner as well as an Eli.However,I can confirm that the Eli Benjamin Horner was in fact the great uncle that I was trying to trace,and that the details on the image details were correct.
Much appreciated.