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MARY JANE SHIELS Born 1857 Penicuik Scotland?

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alviegal

alviegal Report 18 Mar 2012 19:25

Henry from 1851's birth.

name: Henry Shields
gender: Male
baptism/christening place: , HADDINGTON, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
birth date: 03 Apr 1829
birthplace: , Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland
father's name: William Shields
mother's name: Eliza Cooper

Helen

Helen Report 18 Mar 2012 15:08

There are actually two entries for the marriage of Henry and Mary.

You have the one from Penicuik .. the other is in Dundee where Henry would be living at the time the Banns were called. Might be worth a look as sometimes these banns contain extra information.


HENRY SHIELDS


Marriages:
Spouse: MARY HANTON
Marriage:
03 JUN 1852 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

K

K Report 18 Mar 2012 09:59

Good Luck and do let us know if you reach any conclusions

Kay

patriciaanne

patriciaanne Report 18 Mar 2012 07:33

I have sent a request for the cost of the Entry Papers for Excise Men to The Archives.

I also found the above records and death announcement recently. I hadn't thought about a wrong transcription but have made a note to see if that Henry Shiells could possibly be the father of the Henry Shiells I am following. I m putting all the pieces of information I am receiving together in the hope that they may lead somewhere. I am going to Scotland and Ireland in July on a Family History journey so the more I know before then the better. Thank you for your interest.

K

K Report 18 Mar 2012 06:29

Sorry I don't know what information it would contain.

On another approach Henry, Mary and family seem disappear by 1861. Have you tried Scotlands People for Henry's death or Mary's.

Edit - Scotlands People also have detials of wills etc and maybe these would explain why the family disappear with Henry dying in Ireland

SHIELLS HENRY 15/02/1864 OFFICER OF INLAND REVENUE RESIDING AT RAMELTON IN COUNTY DONEGAL NOTE OF LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION ONLY EDINBURGH SHERIFF COURT INVENTORIES SC70/1/119


SHIELLS HENRY 15/02/1864 OFFICER OF INLAND REVENUE, RESIDING IN RAMELTON IN COUNTY OF DONEGAL LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION EDINBURGH SHERIFF COURT WILLS SC70/4/90

Also found this death announcement-

November 13 1863 - November 10, at his residence, Ramelton, MR HENRY SHIELLS, officer of Inland Revenue, aged 85 years. Maybe the age was a mistranscription and could be 35

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/aughnishbmdnotices.htm


patriciaanne

patriciaanne Report 18 Mar 2012 01:02

I have found a record on The National Archives for a Henry Shiells
Item Reference CUST 116/34/12
Henry Shiells. Entry Papers for services as an Excise man
1851

If I order and pay for this record can anyone give me an idea of what information I am likely to receive.

patriciaanne

patriciaanne Report 17 Mar 2012 23:54

Thank you Helen - I have not seen that before.

Helen

Helen Report 17 Mar 2012 23:13

Dundee Directories:

1853: Henry Shills - Officer of the Inland Revenue - living at 26 Small's Wynd.

This could fit in with the marriage information you found for Henry Shiells and Mary Hunton in Dundee 1852

patriciaanne

patriciaanne Report 17 Mar 2012 22:55

I am fairly new at this. Does anyone have any suggestions on what they would do from here?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Mar 2012 22:33

1861 will not help

Name: Elizabeth Shiels
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: St Cuthbert, edinburghsh
Registration number: 694
Registration district: Midcalder
Civil parish: Midcalder
County: Midlothian
Address: Private Houses
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 35
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1861_133
Household Members: Name Age
James Clarkson 46
Isabella Clarkson 45
Helen M Y Clarkson 5
Elizabeth Robb 2
Elizabeth Shiels 8
Agnes Shiels 7
Mary Shiels 5

Helen

Helen Report 17 Mar 2012 22:22

Some of the children from the 1851 census K sent

Father: Charles Hunton
Mother: Margaret

Jane Hunton -
Gender: Female Christening: 02 NOV 1834 St Hilda, South Shields, Durham, England

Margaret Hunton -
Gender: Female Christening: 08 JAN 1843 Bishopwearmouth, Durham, England

JOHN ROBERT HUNTON -
Gender: Male Christening: 04 FEB 1849 Saint Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

CATHARINE ANN HUNTON -
Gender: Female Christening: 03 MAR 1847 Saint Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Helen

Helen Report 17 Mar 2012 22:00

Another view of the 1851 census for Henry Shiells from Freecen.

It is transcribed as a separate dwelling .. not attached to the McDougall family.

Piece: SCT1851/709 Place: Haddington -East Lothian Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Haddington Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Haddington
Folio: 0 Page: 14 Schedule: 55
Address: Lodge Street

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SHIELLS Henry - U M 21 Frmr Attorney's Clerk Exchqur East Lothian - Haddington
SHIELLS Eliza Gemma Sister U F 20 East Lothian - Haddington
SHIELLS Ross Brothr U M 16 Lawyer's Apprentice East Lothian - Haddington
SHIELLS John Cooper Brothr - M 14 Scholar East Lothian - Haddington
PEADIE Jane Servnt U F 16 Domestic Servant East Lothian - Haddington


Same family in 1841 .. living in Court St.

Piece: SCT1841/709 Place: Haddington -East Lothian Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: St Johns Haddington Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St John Q.S.-
Folio: 7 Page: 5
Address: Court Street

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SHIELLS William M 40 Brewer East Lothian
SHIELLS William G. M 15 East Lothian
SHIELLS Henry M 12 East Lothian
SHIELLS Elizabeth G. F 10 East Lothian
SHIELLS Robert T. M 8 East Lothian
SHIELLS John C. M 5 East Lothian
SCOTT Lizy F 45 Female Servant East Lothian
EDINGTON Marrion F 20 Female Servant East Lothian
SHIELLS Ross M 6 East Lothian





patriciaanne

patriciaanne Report 17 Mar 2012 21:57

Could someone please look up the 1871 census for me to follow up on the Elizabeth, Agnes and Mary Shiels that "Catherine" posted above on the 1861 census.
Thnak you.

patriciaanne

patriciaanne Report 17 Mar 2012 21:53

Apologies for the late reply - morning again in Australia.
Thank you for all the information. Looks like I have some work to do. I had also seen the 1851 census with Henry Shiels living with Alexander McDougall the Inland Revenue Officer in Lodge Street Haddington and wondered if there was a connection.
There is also a Mary Shiels (born about 1859) on the 1871 census, a servant, living with the Brown family in Court Street Haddington which is the same street that a Henry Shiells was living in on the 1841 census.
Maybe wishful thinking on my part but perhaps there is a link somewhere.

alviegal

alviegal Report 17 Mar 2012 21:47

Just to discount the birth found by AnnCardiff, that particular Henry was a coachbuilder who was still around in 1891.

K

K Report 17 Mar 2012 19:38

Whilst this Henry may not be yours I wonder if he was the one who married Mary Hunton. Interesting that he was lving with someone who worked for the Inland Revenue

1851

Name: Henry Shiells
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Haddington, haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Parish Number: 709
Civil parish: Haddington
Town: Haddington
County: East Lothian
Address: Lodge Street
Occupation: Formerly Attorneys Clerk In The Excheguer Edinburgh
ED: 1
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 55
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_192
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander McDaugall 43 Officer Of Inland Revenne
Cathrie Mcdougall 43
Daniel Mcdougall 15
James Mcdougall 9
Alexander Campbell Mcdougall 1
Janet Wilkie 15
Henry Shiells 21
Eliza Garner Shiells 20
Ross Shiells 16
John Cooper Shiells 14
Jane Peadie 16

Catherine

Catherine Report 17 Mar 2012 18:37

The birth/marriage for Margaret Eliza:-

MARGARET ELIZA SHIELLS Female

Event(s): Birth: 21 OCT 1853
Christening: 29 JAN 1854 Fettercairn, Kincardine, Scotland
Parents:
Father: HENRY SHIELLS
Mother: MARY HUNTER

Catherine

Catherine Report 17 Mar 2012 18:30

1861 is not correct one but I will leave it for elimination:-

Birth/Christening, 1850 - 1860, Midlothian, Scotland, British Isles
Father: Robert Shiels, Mother: Elizabeth

1. MARY GILLESPIE CUTHBERTSON SHIELDS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 MAR 1856 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

2. ELIZABETH JANE SHIELDS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 NOV 1852 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

3. AGNES ANDERSON SHIELLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 29 APR 1854 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

4. ELIZABETH JANE SHEILLS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 NOV 1852 Dean And Chalmers Free Church, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Catherine

Catherine Report 17 Mar 2012 18:24

????

1861 Scotland Census about Mary Shiels

Name:Mary Shiels
Age:5
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1856
Relationship:Boarder
Gender:Female
Where born:St Cuthberty, edinburghsh
Registration number:694
Registration district:Midcalder
Civil parish:Midcalder
County:Midlothian
Address:Well Street
Occupation:Scholar
ED:5
Household schedule number:35
Line:1
Roll: CSSCT1861_133
Household Members:
Name Age
James Clarkson 46
Isabella Clarkson 45
Helen M Y Clarkson 5
Elizabeth Robb 2
Elizabeth Shiels 8
Agnes Shiels 7
Mary Shiels 5

EDIT:- Not this one, see below.

K

K Report 17 Mar 2012 17:46

In 1911 Mary Jane's birthplace certainly looks like Pennycook which is pronouced very similiar to Penicuik. You may have this already but could this be the Mary Hunton in 1851 who later married Henry? Interesting that the father Charles was also a Officer Of Inland Revenue

1851

Name: Mary Hunton
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Hunton
Mother's Name: Margt Hunton
Gender: Female
Where born: England
Parish Number: 697
Civil parish: Penicuick
Town: Penicuick
County: Midlothian
Address: Main St
Occupation: At Home
ED: 5
Page: 9 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 39
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_190
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hunton 50 Officer Of Ireland (Inland?)Revenue
Margt Hunton 40
Mary Hunton 19
Jane Hunton 16
Isaba Hunton 14
James Hunton 12
Charles Hunton 10
Margt Hunton 8
Edward Hunton 6
Cathne A Hunton 4
Jno Robt Hunton 2