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Victoria

Victoria Report 22 Mar 2012 11:08

yes thats is her death record and her birthday was 22 nd oct 1905!

also would her mothers maiden name be on the actual birth certificate?

and if yes how do i go about buyin a copy?

many thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Mar 2012 20:46

Going back to Ivy's birth, I'm wondering if this is another possibility?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ivy Fenwick
Date of registration: Apr-May-Jun 1902
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Humberside
Volume: 9d
Page: 311

The death does give the birthdate (assuming this is the correct death?)

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Name: Ivy Birch
Birth Date: 22 Oct 1905
Date of registration: Mar 1999
Age at Death: 93
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register number: D57A
District and Subdistrict: 5501D
Entry number: 15

... but dates on death records are only as good as the informant's knowledge.

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Mar 2012 19:55

Just thought I would throw this one into the mix as an option for Hilda Helena Eastman

Birth - September 1883 HILGA Helena Eastman Sculcoates 9d 121 (??heard as HILDA)

1891 census transcription details for: 18, Franks Terrace, Sutton With Stoneferry, Sutton, Kingston Upon Hull

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3912 Folio: 96a Page: 22

Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Sutton
Parish: Sutton with Stoneferry Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Mark City/Municipal Borough: Kingston upon Hull
Address: 18, Franks Terrace, Sutton With Stoneferry, Sutton, Kingston Upon Hull
County: Yorkshire (East Riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation , Disability Where Born
EASTMAN, Peter Head Married M 53 1838 Labourer Sweden
EASTMAN, Helena S Wife Married F 42 1849 Finland
EASTMAN, Helga H Daughter F 7 1884 Hull Yorkshire
EASTMAN, Edna C Daughter F 5 1886 Hull Yorkshire
EASTMAN, Alarick Son Single M 19 1872 Labourer Finland

You need some certificates!

1911 for Sophia has 11 children born - 4 still alive, 7 died

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Mar 2012 19:38

Hilda's father Joshua appears to be on the 1911 census in Hull. He is a widower, but it has mistakenly been written on the form and then crossed out that he had 5 children born and 5 still alive.

Victoria

Victoria Report 21 Mar 2012 17:15

i beleive it is hilda wood and from what i can gather she was 1 of 18 children but no all children survived!

Joseph

Joseph Report 21 Mar 2012 17:10

1891 at 96, Hessle Road, Holy Trinity And St Mary, Kingston Upon Hull
WOOD, Joshua Head Married M 47 1844 Baker & Confectioner Malton
WOOD, Ann E Wife Married F 42 1849 York
WOOD, Jesse Daughter Single F 21 1870 Norton Yorkshire
WOOD, Annie Daughter Single F 19 1872 Mothers Help Norton
WOOD, Louie Daughter Single F 18 1873 Mothers Help Norton
WOOD, Henry E Son M 15 1876 Bakers Assistant Norton
**WOOD, Hilda A Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar Norton

1881 at Commercial Street, Norton (York Er)
WOOD, Joshua Head Married M 38 1843 Stonemason Malton Yorkshire
WOOD, Annie Eliza Wife Married F 32 1849 York
WOOD, Jessie Daughter Single F 11 1870 Norton Yorkshire
WOOD, Henry Edward Son Single M 5 1876 Norton
**WOOD, Hilda Anna Daughter Single F 2 1879 Norton

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Mar 2012 17:02

Can't find Hilda Helena nee Eastman and Fred Fenwick who married 1901 in the 1911 census nor deaths (see Joseph's post above).

Vicky says Sabina was ? sister to Ivy's Dad so this could be them

1891 census transcription details for: 9, Carlton Street, Newington, West Ella North Ferriby, Kingston Upon Hull

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3917 Folio: 106 Page: 15


Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle
Parish: Newington Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: Newington City/Municipal Borough: Kingston upon Hull
Address: 9, Carlton Street, Newington, West Ella North Ferriby, Kingston Upon Hull
County: Yorkshire (East Riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation ,Disability Where Born
FENWICK, Robert Head Widower M 52 1839 Blacksmith Easington Yorkshire
FENWICK, Robert Son Single M 25 1866 Blacksmiths Striker Patrington Yorkshire
FENWICK, Sabina Daughter Single F 17 1874 Braithwell Yorkshire
FENWICK, Fred Son M 15 1876 Stainton Yorkshire

Vera

Vera Report 21 Mar 2012 16:40


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Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
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Dickinson Arthur Ernest Hull 9d 522
>>>>>Fenwick Joseph Harry Hull 9d 522
Lacey Florrie Hull 9d 522
>>>>Wood Hilda Ann Hull 9d 522



Regards Vera

Victoria

Victoria Report 21 Mar 2012 16:37

yes my great gran is called ivy! and i think on the 1911 census i think sabina was ivy's dads sister but im trying to find her mothers maiden name so i can trace her parents and her grandparents

thanks

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Mar 2012 16:36

Could this be the parents in 1911,
1911 census transcription details for: Park Drive Grimsby

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN19947 RG78PN1197A RD422 SD1 ED2 SN528


Reg. District: Grimsby Sub District: Great Grimsby
Parish: Great Grimsby Enum. District: 2
Address: Park Drive Grimsby
County: Lincolnshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
SHACKLES, Thomas Alfred Head Married M 38 1873 Poor Rate Collector Grimsby Lincs
SHACKLES, Maria Alward Wife Married17 years F 38 1873 Grimsby Lincs
SHACKLES, Sylvia Daughter Single F 14 1897 Grimsby Lincs
SHACKLES, Thomas Alfred Son Single M 10 1901 School Grimsby Lincs
SHACKLES, Emma Maria Daughter Single F 6 1905 Grimsby Lincs
JONES, Emma Brother In Law Widow F 60 1851 Hull Yorks
LARTER, Ethel Maud Servant Single F 19 1892 Hasbro Norfolk
FENWICK, Joseph Henry Visitor Married11 years M 34 1877 Builder Hull Yorks
FENWICK, Hilda Ana Visitor Married11 years F 30 1881 Malton Yorks
FENWICK, Norman Visitor Single M 9 1902 Hull Yorks


greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Mar 2012 16:31

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Print Close
Name: DALTRY, John Edward
Registration district: Sculcoates
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1903
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 315

MarriageFinder: John Edward Daltry married one of the following people:

COMERFORD, Catherine
FENWICK, Sabina <<<<<<<<<<<
STONES, Arthur William

Joseph

Joseph Report 21 Mar 2012 16:24

???

Marriages Sep 1901
EASTMAN Hilda Helena Sculcoates 9d 360
Fenwick Fred Sculcoates 9d 360

Marriages Jun 1899
Fenwick Joseph Harry Hull 9d 522
Wood Hilda Ann Hull 9d 522

EDIT Hilda Ann born New Malton Yorkshire

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Mar 2012 16:24


?? This is Ivy in 1911 not with parents either


1911 census transcription details for: 65 Wellsted St Hull

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN28793 RG78PN1652 RD522 SD2 ED24 SN324


Reg. District: Hull Sub District: Myton
Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary Enum. District: 24
Address: 65 Wellsted St Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
DALTRY, John Edward Head Married M 48 1863 Joiner Oldham Lancashire
DALTRY, Sabina Wife Married7 years F 37 1874 Braithwell Yorkshire
DALTRY, Edith Daughter Single F 15 1896 St Annes on Sea Lancashire
FENWICK, Ivy Niece F 8 1903 School Hull Yorkshire
FENWICK, Violet Niece F 3 1908 Hull Yorkshire


Joseph

Joseph Report 21 Mar 2012 16:16

??

Births Dec 1905
Fenwick Ivy Sculcoates 9d 230

Vera

Vera Report 21 Mar 2012 16:15

1911

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ELLARBY, Henry H Head M 50 1861 Drayman Yorkshire Roos VIEW
ELLARBY, Annie E Wife Married
20 years F 42 1869 Yorkshire North Cave VIEW
ELLARBY, Fredereck W Son M 14 1897 Grocer Errand Boy Yorkshire Hull VIEW
ELLARBY, Martha Daughter F 11 1900 School Yorkshire Hull VIEW
ELLARBY, Olive Daughter F 10 1901 School Yorkshire Hull VIEW
FENWICK, Elsie Niece F 5 1906 Yorkshire Hull VIEW

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28591 Reference:
RG14PN28591 RG78PN1643 RD521 SD1 ED14 SN180

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
Southcoates





Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ELLARBY Henry Harrison Sculcoates 9d 189
FENWICK Ann Eliza Sculcoates 9d 189
Walker John Herbert Sculcoates 9d 189
WINSHIP Miriam Sculcoates 9d 189

Regards Vera

Joseph

Joseph Report 21 Mar 2012 16:12

Is your great gran Ivy ????

Marriages Dec 1924
Birch Albert Fenwick Hull 9d 601
Fenwick Ivy Birch Hull 9d 601

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Mar 2012 16:11

Is this your great gran, you didn't give her name? It's the only 1905 in Hull
Civil Registration event: Birth
Print Close
Name: FENWICK, Elsie
Registration district: Hull
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1905
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 290

Victoria

Victoria Report 21 Mar 2012 15:54

hi im trying to trace my great grandmothers side of my family all i know is my great gran was born on 22nd october 1905 in hull yorkshire and that her mother was called hilda.

my great gran was married to a gentleman called albert birch also of hull yorkshire,

if any one has any information i would be very greatful

many thanks

vicky